hard to believe that no one has mentioned Gable at St Francis, Welton at Goodland and Garden City, or Baker from Hoxie, likely those three would have as many individual and team champions as any three guys I can think of, Baker has not been in the game long enough to have many coaches out there, but there are a BUNCH of guys coaching in Kansas today that were out of Gabel or Welton's corner. Once in a while you see a program that exhibits a high level of skill in its wrestlers that doesn't allow for the "tough guy "image where you see a bunch of shoving around on the mats edge, or obscene gestures or language after the match,etc. and the coaches of those programs are the ones that I have respect for. It is possible to be really good without being a total jerk to everyone around you, but some coaches seem to attach little importance to that. In my view, character is as important as skill, and it has been my experience that it is very difficult to instill that as a coach or parent. Those who are succesful at that, I rate as the best coaches.