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#73486 10/14/03 11:24 PM
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Matt Mock wants to know what everyone thinks about him winning state at HWT in 6A...haha

#73487 10/15/03 12:25 AM
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hmmm...ill put it this way. if Venegas hadnt wigged out this shoulder at state, matt mock wouldnt be a state champ. that is a fact.


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#73488 10/15/03 09:21 PM
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Listen here man...I almost beat Venegas my junior year, until he caught and pinned me...but either way Venegas wasn't there, and I am a state champion....your not!

#73489 10/15/03 10:29 PM
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Bwahahahahahaha. Man, we can definitely see the integrity shown by a very humble Mr. Mock here...

I actually think Mock would have given him a good match, and maybe he would have won. Venegas was not AMAZING, although he was quite talented. Was he a great heavyweight? I don't know if he was as good as Fraggle, Polansky, or Beltran, but he was pretty good. But then again, he did lose to G-Stizzle...

Venegas was not a nice guy...and he talked about himself a lot the forum (and whereas I do the same, I am not serious) under a different name. Way uncool. Of course, Mock talks about how cool he is in person...bad form, both of you.

And you're both lucky Philbert has yet to unleash his wrath on the heavyweight world.

#73490 10/15/03 11:22 PM
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Best be careful not to "MOCK" him....hahahaha


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#73491 10/15/03 11:41 PM
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When Venegas would talk about himself he would try to act like he wasn't Venegas and talk himself up, when in fact everyone knew it was him. Tres Stupide.
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just wanting some sir up about who everyone thinks will place at highschool nationals this year like gardner venegas hemmerling and all the other seniors around the state
And Mock read that he was being insulted so he became a member and posted so as to make sure everyone knew who the big man of the state was. When I say big I mean BIG. But no matter how you look at it, they could both pound me into the ground.

I could outrun you big boys, I know that. Also, you big-uns couldn't handle the Captain Planet-like being created at the mergence of forum forces of a Prant Garker and myself...


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#73492 10/16/03 08:01 AM
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Venegas would have smacked Mock in the finals. Sure, Mock was and is good, but he wasn't at all better than Venegas. Mock just would not have won.

#73493 10/16/03 12:21 PM
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There's only one way to solve this little problem. Mock vs. Venegas in a no-holds-barred cage match. Winner gets his weight in either BBQ hot wings or Chipolte burritos.


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#73494 10/16/03 12:28 PM
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If this were the late 90's Mock would have taken a whoopin throughout the state at Heavy....Polansky, Whetstone, Razor, Casteel...I don't know who Venegas has lost too, but Mock, c'mon even the papers know when you lose....granted a great wrestler.....

At heavyweight, Norton's Michael Sprigg tied unbeaten Matt Mock of Wichita South 1-1 at the end of regulation. Both wrestlers were called for stalling midway in the overtime, sending the match to the tiebreaker, where Sprigg scored an escape for the win


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#73495 10/16/03 01:20 PM
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Yes, those heavies were all pretty stacked...however, the era of the great heavy may be over for a while in Kansas...'tis a shame, since it's always so fun to watch the fatties rumble and place bets on when whose boob will fall out of their singlet.

For those of you who say that Venegas would have won this year- you are wrong. Not because he's not a good wrestler, but because of the Heavy Curse. Much like the BoSox or Cubbies, it's quite abnormal for a heavyweight to win twice in a row, at least in 6a. I think Beltran may have done it, but aside from him no one has won it more than once for the past 10 years or so, I believe.

Sadly, for everyone involved, I think we have about as good of a chance of seeing an all-star heavyweight as Niederee has of losing his gargantuan bum. Man, that thing was classic. And gross.

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My only loss last year was to Vogeli from Kapaun, who I slapped in the senior classic 5-1

#73497 10/16/03 06:17 PM
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:rolleyes: Yeah, but you never had to wrestle Fat Pat or Philbert. :rolleyes:

We all agree that you're a fine wrestler, sir. However, you seem to us as somewhat of a braggart. Venegas had a somewhat abbrasive personality, and I encourage you to change your ways and not end up with the same reputation. I don't think you understand: on the forum, we don't care about who won or who lost. All we care about is that you can spell, that you're funny, and that you have a cool avatar. (And you're not a D to the .) So lighten up.

Besides, I thought you fat guys were supposed to be jolly.

#73498 10/17/03 02:55 PM
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Oh dear. I fear I may have committed a TERRIBlE sin.

You see, in the above post, I spelled the word "abrasive" with two b's, thus making it "abbrasive." Now while I don't think I did this on purpose, either way it is unacceptable. I would like to thank KCWrestlersMom, who pointed this out in a private message, so as not to shame me publicly. I appreciate your willingness to help me fix the problem behind closed doors, but I figured that since I always point out spelling mistakes of others, it is only fair that I have my own pointed out.

So thank you, KCWrestlersMom. You have done me a great service.

And Mock and Venegas still can't hang with the heavies of the late 90's.

#73499 10/17/03 10:57 PM
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What do you guys think of Kevin Pulliam, that mammoth from Harmon? That guy was a beast and he even beat Venegas two out of three times when Adam was a junior.

#73500 10/18/03 01:39 AM
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he was one super athletic dude. He was light on his feet like a 103lber and was quick as hell. i saw him absolutely just destroy the mizzou heavy at the metro classic. It was sick watching him pick the guy apart.


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#73501 10/18/03 08:32 AM
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wow, boo to the moderators...
down with censorship esta no muy bien, and i agree w/ prant mock does sound like a to the . And does any one remember why Jhris Cennings was slaughtered by the opressive ones...I do, i just dont have the testicular fortitude to repeat those words.

#73502 10/18/03 08:44 AM
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Oh nonono, Ifeelfat. I was not stating the Mr. Mock was being a "D to the _______." I simply recommended that he not become one, and thus face forum ridicule. You see, I'm only looking out for his best interests.

And mad props to Kevin Pullium for being a tailback. I would have loved to see that. Fat guys running. Good times.

#73503 10/18/03 11:55 AM
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All I have to say is both boys should be very greatful that I wasn't wrestling heavyweight this year. I considered it at the beginning, however, I had a hard time weighing more than 150. Again both should be very happy they graduated cause I'm going after that heavyweight title this year.


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#73504 10/21/03 07:06 PM
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In my opinion Venegas would beat Mock noo questions asked and in fact ibet that in december Venagas would go to Chanute and have a match to set this matter straght. If you want to call to set this up mock i am a close friend of him and personally garantee this. here is my # 913-731-0759. The challenge is thrown down.

#73505 10/22/03 02:04 PM
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can we make it a three way. I'll take Mock, and then Venagas can have the winner.


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