"Yep he created as sinners to be forgiven only if you believe in him. I think thats a stacked deck
a self serving God. If he created us as sinners isn't he responsible for that NO I must ask for his forgiveness for being what ever it is he created."

God did not create us as sinners. In fact, we were created in his image (sinless but with the free will to sin or do good) Adam and Eve were created to live with GOD and to have fellowship with him. Mankind was not created with sin. Instead mankind chose to sin. Thanks to a little help from the prompting of the devil. Again, mankind was not created as sinners to believe in God so they could be forgiven. In fact its the opposite. Because man rejected to follow GOD, GOD made the move to reconnect with us.

Thats were JESUS comes in. JESUS lived a sinless life. He was born into this world so that he could atone (forgive) our sins by dying a most gruesome death on a cross. This death enables believers to appear sinless to God on judgement day. Our sin caused us to lose our fellowship with God. Only a sinless person may enter heaven. If you are not sinless, you can not enter heaven. Becuase all mankind can not live a sinless life (the fall of Adam and Eve), one must accept Jesus Christ as his savior. Savior from what? Savior from Gods wrath. God is pissed off at the evil of this world will punish the wicked. Imagine if you created a child and he raped a dog. I bet you would be pissed. Thats kind of how God feels. That child is going to be punished for what de did. Now imagine if your neighbors kid raped your dog. you would be even more pissed at the guilty offender. Welcome to Gods world. yet.."For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son(jesus), that whoever believes in him shall not perish(die = separation form Godin the afterlife) but have eternal life. John 3:16