Kansas Wrestling
Posted By: loulou62 Hutchinson - 02/10/10 10:03 PM
does anyone know how many entries and if they will be posted
Posted By: Teamroper Re: Hutchinson - 02/11/10 12:21 AM
800 + and my bet is no...they kick it old school, find out who you got when you get there.
Posted By: P Finch Re: Hutchinson - 02/13/10 03:15 AM
Can anyone give me the rational for Hutchinson putting 5 wrestlers in an 8 man bracket vs 5 man round robin. I believe everyone is looking for mat time and $20 entry fee for max of 2 matches is extreme, especially when you drive 3 hrs, one night in motel and support the local businesses. I have looked at 16 track tournaments this yr and haven't found one that brackted 5 kids in a bracket.
Posted By: n7m13c99 Re: Hutchinson - 02/13/10 03:31 AM
Because it is their tournament and thats what they wanted to do.
Posted By: Pelland Re: Hutchinson - 02/13/10 03:33 AM
Where are the brackets posted? ... I just realized that you're probably at the motel and have already weighted in...I'm not very smart.
Posted By: schroeder Re: Hutchinson - 02/13/10 11:50 AM
Haysville is running alot of 4 man and 5 man round robin brackets. we looked into the best way for kids to get good competition and matches. no not every bracket is round robin but we did do that with 4 and 5 man brackets. that way the wrestler would get 3 and 4 matches instead of 2 like in 5 man --8 man bracket. good luck to all those attending the hutch tourny.
Posted By: Hendo Re: Hutchinson - 02/15/10 12:41 AM
We involved at the Hutch Tourney also don't like the 5 kids in the 8 man but we have used 8 man brackets to give more kids a chance to medal. We are discussing expanding brackets next year creating more rounds and better competion. If you have 857 kids like we did and allow 5 man round robins that makes for a very long day. Its bad both ways and we try to do the best we can. This year went very well and the tourney was over by 4 o'clock for most kids. Thanks to all that came and enjoyed the day!
Posted By: loulou62 Re: Hutchinson - 02/15/10 12:07 PM
if my cypherin is correct the you would only add 3 matches to the mat by going to round robin with 5 (10 total matches) vs a 5 man bracket (7 matches). Not a big price to pay for 6-8 brackets spread over the whole tournament. I personally wouldn't come to a tourament if i knew there was a chance of a 5 man bracket. They still get 4 places both ways, but the 5th place kid in the RR gets 4 matches vs 2.
Posted By: ReDPloyd Re: Hutchinson - 02/15/10 04:16 PM
My son has wrestled back to back weekends in a six man RR bracket at the Mill Valley and East Kansas tournaments. Ten matches in two tournaments and the family was home after a 30 minute drive by 3pm for both. He only got nine matches in the first four tournaments he wrestled this year. Counting the four matches he had in Salina, he has fourteen matches in his last three. I think it is great to have RR brackets for up to six wrestlers as opposed to throwing them in an eight man with two or three byes.

So, by my cyphering:

4 tourneys, 9 matches equals 2.25 matches per tourney
3 tourneys, 14 matches equals 4.67 matches per tourney
Posted By: Hendo Re: Hutchinson - 02/15/10 10:03 PM
We tried to eliminate all of them during bracketing however after scratches and changes some were created. I will bring these complaints to the tourney board so we can do better next year.
Posted By: GarateKids Re: Hutchinson - 02/15/10 10:07 PM
lol
Posted By: Jake Goldenstein Re: Hutchinson - 02/15/10 10:49 PM
5 man rr = 20 matches
Posted By: tcctmickey Re: Hutchinson - 02/15/10 10:53 PM
Originally Posted By: Jake Goldenstein
5 man rr = 20 matches

10 matches would be correct
Posted By: jafo14 Re: Hutchinson - 02/16/10 03:31 AM
the tournament went well. if you don't like the lack of the five man round robins, talk to the tournament director next year. if you can change her mind on how to run the tournament, then you need to let me know how you did it. all i know is we had and always had a decent size tournament and start on time and get out at a decent time.
Posted By: ReDPloyd Re: Hutchinson - 02/16/10 11:04 AM
Originally Posted By: tcctmickey
Originally Posted By: Jake Goldenstein
5 man rr = 20 matches

10 matches would be correct


5 man RR: Wrestlers A,B,C,D and E:

A against B,C,D,E = 4 matches
B against A,C,D,E = 4 matches
C against A,B,D,E = 4 matches
D against A,B,C,E = 4 matches
E against A,B,C,D = 4 matches

Five wrestlers, four matches each (5x4 = 20) equals twenty matches.
Posted By: loulou62 Re: Hutchinson - 02/16/10 11:24 AM
10 matches is correct if you look closely you have A vs E and E vs A which is same match twice and so on - simple way pull up a 5 man RR on track = 10 matches
Posted By: ReDPloyd Re: Hutchinson - 02/16/10 11:26 AM
Thank you loulou62. I stand corrected.
Posted By: jerry davis Re: Hutchinson - 02/17/10 01:17 AM
does anyone have the results of 6u 43
Posted By: gator Re: Hutchinson - 02/19/10 01:37 AM
How long does it take to post results
Posted By: KMac Re: Hutchinson - 02/19/10 02:17 AM
Don't hold your breath. Look at the "Results" page and you will see that 2007 was the last time Hutch posted results. Nothing posted last 2 yrs, so don't be surprised if you don't see 2010 results.
Posted By: highcrotch Re: Hutchinson - 02/19/10 02:27 AM
I would consider that next year when you are making your choices on what tournament to go to that weekend!
Posted By: teamweber Re: Hutchinson - 02/19/10 02:39 AM
6 and under 43

Devon Weber 1st
Quintin Pauda 2nd
Lane Pierce 3rd
Steven Seller 4th
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