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Posted By: Beeson Quit Hugging - 03/10/14 10:39 AM
You have just won a hard match. Your excited. Your opponent is not. Quit trying to hug him after the match. He shook your hand, that is all he is required to do. Quit trying to hug him. Act like you have won a tough match before. Quit trying to hug your opponent. I sure don't want anyone hugging me after a tough loss. Quit trying to hug your opponent. Be a good sport, shake hands, and walk off the mat. Quit trying to hug your opponent.
Posted By: Sig Re: Quit Hugging - 03/10/14 11:09 AM
Ha that is great! I have 1 sometimes 2 kids that do that. 1 of them is usually on the losing side also. How they heck do you politely tell them to stop without breaching the “sportsmanship” clause they will come back with? For the record I 100% agree with you.
Posted By: PatrickCavanaugh Re: Quit Hugging - 03/10/14 11:09 AM
Chad, do you need a hug?
Posted By: Beeson Re: Quit Hugging - 03/10/14 12:05 PM
Originally Posted By: Sig
Ha that is great! I have 1 sometimes 2 kids that do that. 1 of them is usually on the losing side also. How they heck do you politely tell them to stop without breaching the “sportsmanship” clause they will come back with? For the record I 100% agree with you.


You don't do it politely. You explain that nobody wants a hug from the guy that just beat them. It is a poor sport to rub it in by hugging the guy you just beat. I tell my kids to not do it, it is a good way to get punched in the mouth if you do it to the wrong kid.
Posted By: DannyB Re: Quit Hugging - 03/11/14 03:41 AM
Originally Posted By: Beeson
Originally Posted By: Sig
Ha that is great! I have 1 sometimes 2 kids that do that. 1 of them is usually on the losing side also. How they heck do you politely tell them to stop without breaching the “sportsmanship” clause they will come back with? For the record I 100% agree with you.


You don't do it politely. You explain that nobody wants a hug from the guy that just beat them. It is a poor sport to rub it in by hugging the guy you just beat. I tell my kids to not do it, it is a good way to get punched in the mouth if you do it to the wrong kid.


But you will be suspended for a year.
Posted By: Beeson Re: Quit Hugging - 03/11/14 10:17 AM
I would argue my kid was being assaulted and fought back. As we have learned from the board it is all in interpretation, even if it is wrong.
Posted By: DannyB Re: Quit Hugging - 03/12/14 03:52 AM
Originally Posted By: Beeson
I would argue my kid was being assaulted and fought back. As we have learned from the board it is all in interpretation, even if it is wrong.

Beeson, hugged until he was a senior laugh
Posted By: Beeson Re: Quit Hugging - 03/12/14 10:08 AM
I'm going to need video proof for that statement.
Posted By: Teamroper Re: Quit Hugging - 03/12/14 12:02 PM
He has tried hugging me after me were both coaching a match, weird thing is they were on different matts.
Posted By: hotrodder54 Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 02:14 AM
If you don't wanna get hugged then win or shut up and take the hug
Posted By: smokeycabin Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 11:56 AM
Some hugs can be a sign of ultimate respect and compassion.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/20...arming-gesture/

High School Wrestler Loses Championship, Wins Crowd With Heartwarming Gesture
Posted By: Beeson Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 12:40 PM
I agree, totally different set of circumstances. This is not the norm and the loser is the one hugging not the winner.

I just think it is poor sportsmanship to try to hug a kid you have just beat. I only brought this up because I had a kid win and try to do it the other week and the loser was not having any part of it. I told my kid he was in the wrong and to not do it again.
Posted By: John Taylor Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 12:42 PM
I think the hugs after a match are an ultimate sign of respect. To me no athlete trains as hard as a great wrestler does, so win or lose that is showing respect to your competitors because you know how hard they trained to get there. You see it all the time in MMA with grown men. They beat each others faces in for 3 to 5 rounds and talk a lot of smack before hand, but when the final bell sounds everything changes you see that sign of respect and hug, because you know how hard it was for each to get there no matter who wins.
Posted By: doug747 Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 12:56 PM
I like what the lady MMA fighter, Ronda Rousey, did. Refused to shake hands with her opponent after their fight, because she had to listen to all of the smack talk up to the fight, and wasn't going to hug someone that disrespected her. I loved it. How about we don't talk smack (except to Jerry Dale and Beeson) and respect our opponent before AND after the match. To me this type of behavior (talking smack before, then wanting to be friends after) is another example of the hypocrisy that exist in today's world......
Posted By: Beeson Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 12:59 PM
I agree with both John and Doug. Here is the only thing I would say in response to John, let the loser initiate the hug not the winner. Especially if the winner only hugs when they win.
Posted By: doug747 Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 01:22 PM
That was a very good point Beeson, April must have come up with it.

It is really easy to be huggie squeezie, and a nice guy, after you win. But can you be nice and show some class after you get your tail handed to you?

There are punks out there that pretend to be good people after the win, then when they lose, are complete psychopaths.

And there are also those punks out there that are pricks if they lose, and pricks if they win, and act like they are upset that he other kid "stalled" or "I should have kicked his butt worse", or anything else to disrespect their opponent........

It isn't that hard to do the one thing that a MAN should do after a win, loss, or draw, and that is to stick your hand out to your opponent, and shake it with class.
Posted By: John Taylor Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 01:28 PM
I agree with your thoughts on this.

Originally Posted By: Beeson
I agree with both John and Doug. Here is the only thing I would say in response to John, let the loser initiate the hug not the winner. Especially if the winner only hugs when they win.
Posted By: John Taylor Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 01:28 PM
I agree with this 100% I see it every weekend.

Originally Posted By: doug747
That was a very good point Beeson, April must have come up with it.

It is really easy to be huggie squeezie, and a nice guy, after you win. But can you be nice and show some class after you get your tail handed to you?

There are punks out there that pretend to be good people after the win, then when they lose, are complete psychopaths.

And there are also those punks out there that are pricks if they lose, and pricks if they win, and act like they are upset that he other kid "stalled" or "I should have kicked his butt worse", or anything else to disrespect their opponent........

It isn't that hard to do the one thing that a MAN should do after a win, loss, or draw, and that is to stick your hand out to your opponent, and shake it with class.

Posted By: coach craig Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 01:31 PM
My wife always gets mad at me when I gripe about hugging. I don't want you near me if you beat me. There is nothing sportsmanship about it. Not at the end of a match. Not everyone is going to agree with those who hate the idea of some dude that just beat you hugging you and that is ok, i guess. Let me shake your hand and be done with it.

That being said...Doug never hugged me. that is why i left Kansas.
Posted By: Just Wondering Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 01:42 PM
You want a Hug? Go see Mom, Dad or Grandma. Win or lose leave me out of it.
Posted By: doug747 Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 01:43 PM
And right before I shook your hand, every single time, when you were not looking, I picked a booger and put it in my palm.......
Posted By: Joe Knecht Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 01:50 PM
As Doug and Chad say, just behave the same way win or lose, hug or not.

I feel the same about coaches coming over after their kid wins and want to shake my hand knowing they don't do the same when they lose. If it's done win-or-lose I'm fine with it otherwise take a hike.

I've recently had some coaches shake hands prior to the match. I've since seen kids at shake the other coaches hand before the match instead of after. Both seem like a good compromise.
Posted By: Beeson Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 01:54 PM
Very Rarely will I shake hands with a coach after Jake wins...I would say I shake hands after he loses 95% of the time.
Posted By: CWB Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 05:51 PM
Here is one for you. What about giving you hand to the kid to help him up. My son had a kid that stomped us put his hand out and help my son off the mat. My son has now started to do this,all the time.Even if he has lost he still puts his hand out if the boy was on bottom.
He has had about 80% take his hand win or loose.Some get real mad if they are loosing and will not get help up.

What do you all think ?
Posted By: Just Wondering Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 06:06 PM
Nope. You are battling to win. Nice guys finish last. Take my handshake after the match as my sign of respect. Other than that, I have no time for it.
Posted By: ColtraneIndy Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 06:16 PM
Chad, I have shaken your hand several times after coaching matches between our boys, although that was a number of years back, I'm pretty sure we didn't win a single one of them. smile

CWB, just as Joe said, I believe you do it the same, no matter, but just as in wrestling during a match, you need to know the situation along with the score...

I can't stand it when a coach or kid only tries to shake hands, fist bump or hug after a win.
Posted By: in it to win it Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 06:33 PM
Foreseeing a BIG GROUP HUG coming for Chad Beeson @ State!
That's why he posted -- he wants to see how many HUGS he can get during State to break the record!!
Posted By: ReDPloyd Re: Quit Hugging - 03/13/14 10:20 PM
My son wrestled Bryce Shoemaker about a half dozen times from the age of 8-10. No need for me to say who won those matches and Bryce would put his arm around Garrett as the left the center circle hand shake and tell him good match. There is no doubt in my mind that he did it with very good intentions. He was a beast once the first whistle blew, but a gentleman after the match was over. Garrett never had a problem with it and knew that he would have to wrestle a perfect match to even be within striking distance at the end of three minutes.
Posted By: AppFan Re: Quit Hugging - 03/19/14 11:09 PM
Hugs are great, after you win celbrate with your other four teamates hug the coach, cut down the nets and have a good day.
Posted By: JamyD Re: Quit Hugging - 03/19/14 11:40 PM
I looooooove you....Bahahaha....
Posted By: Spexy Re: Quit Hugging - 03/19/14 11:44 PM
Ok, ok. This is what I know from being a part of kids/high school wrestling. 90 % of these kids have been wrestling each other year in and year out, since age of 5. Warriors on the mat, friends off the mat. Each kid looks out for the other, no matter what team they wrestle for. Loosing sucks, I get it. But who are we to decide, if they give each other a QUICK hug after the match. Seems a moot subject.
Posted By: ReDPloyd Re: Quit Hugging - 03/20/14 12:06 AM
My youngest just started this season and the jury is still out whether or not he takes the long journey. Here is my burning question, if he is still wrestling in a few years and he wins a match, is it alright if I hug his mom/my wife?
Posted By: Teamroper Re: Quit Hugging - 03/20/14 03:48 AM
Originally Posted By: ReDPloyd
My youngest just started this season and the jury is still out whether or not he takes the long journey. Here is my burning question, if he is still wrestling in a few years and he wins a match, is it alright if I hug his mom/my wife?


No, but is ok if I do...lol
Posted By: Teamroper Re: Quit Hugging - 03/29/14 11:45 PM
Thanks for the hug today Chad.
Posted By: PatrickCavanaugh Re: Quit Hugging - 03/29/14 11:56 PM
That's messed up. I approached Chad today, put my hand on his shoulder and didn't get JACK. Not cool Beeson.
Posted By: jule Re: Quit Hugging - 03/30/14 01:40 AM
It sounds like maybe Beeson only has so many hugs in him and Tracey used them all up.
Posted By: PatrickCavanaugh Re: Quit Hugging - 03/30/14 01:43 AM
Damn. My life story a day late and a dollar short. Good luck tomorrow Kansas wrestlers.
Posted By: J. Dale Re: Quit Hugging - 03/30/14 02:32 AM
Doug, leave the Booger jokes to the Booger King. And the only reason you never hugged after winning was well..... there weren't that many wins. Sorry man I had to.
Posted By: Teamroper Re: Quit Hugging - 03/30/14 02:32 AM
Just so you know your luck is in tact, I got a sweaty 2 pat and he was already hugging someone else before I knew it.
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