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Posted By: 24/7 5A rankings are out... - 11/20/08 03:17 PM
They are listed on the KWCA site and updated for this year. One initial thought is Spencer Blew from Lansing has to be in the top 6 at 130. Good job to coach Buckbee for getting them posted. The rest will settle out throughout the season.

24/7
Posted By: Cokeley Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/20/08 04:22 PM
Team Rankiings
Pre-season rankings
1. Emporia
2. Valley Center
3. Bishop Carroll
4. Liberal
5. Gardner Edgerton
6. Andover Central
7. Lansing
8. Salina South
9. Newton
10. Great Bend
IIndiiviiduall Rankiings .
103
1. Clint Stahl, 11, Newton
2. Codie Dean, 11, Valley Center
3. Chason Lueth, 11, Great Bend
4. Aspen Kmiec, 10, Shawnee Heights
5. Bo Pursel, 09, Lansing
6. Aaron Seybold, 09, Pittsburg
112
1. Adrian Salas, 11, Liberal
2. Caleb Seaton, 10, Bonner Springs
3. Robert Arzola, 12, Turner
4. Trevor Boyer, 11, Mill Valley
5. Jake Sullivan, 11, Andover Central
6. Austin Haake, 10, Pittsburg
119
1. Tyler Stokes, 12, Gardner Edgerton
2. Blaine Smith, 11, Salina South
3. Jake Gentzler, 10, Andover Central
4. Garrett Jones, 11, Ark City
5. Mario Corado, 10, Pittsburg
6. Sasha Ambrose, 11, Bishop Miege
125
1. Dylan Penka, 10, Bishop Carroll
2. Justin Rose, 12, Emporia
3. Steven Plott, 11, Salina South
4. Nick Schwager, 11, Great Bend
5. Jake Umscheid, 10, Andover Central
6. Seth Kline, 11, Newton
130
1. Chase Nitcher, 11, Valley Center
2. Kash Biddle, 11, Ark City
3. Victor Cruz, 12, Liberal
4. Kasey Lien, 11, Salina South
5. Josh Umscheid, 12, Andover Central
6. Beau Hentzen, 12, Bishop Carroll
135
1. Sal Tovar, 12, Emporia
2. Dillon Scanlon, 10, Lansing
3. Matt Korte, 12, Mill Valley
4. Jacob Ingram, 11, Gardner Edgerton
5. Trent Hoover, 11, Salina South
6. Tyler Stremel, 12, Great Bend
140
1. Cade Blair, 11, Valley Center
2. Tyler Davis, 11, McPherson
3. Jake Mainz, 12, Bishop Carroll
4. Tavo Dikin, 12, Emporia
5. Jason Langford, 12, Turner
6. Vance Oliver, 11, Winfield
145
1. Colby Crank, 12, Hutchinson
2. Tyler Harradine, 11, Salina South
3. Austin Willis, 11, Shawnee Heights
4. James Mullin, 12, Mill Valley
5. Daniel Blair, 11, Pittsburg
6. Kyle McGoldrick, 11, Valley Center
152
1. Chris Watson, 12, Andover Central
2. Jordan Brown, 12, Pittsburg
3. Todd Curtis, 11, Gardner Edgerton
4. Tyler Sutherland, 12, Liberal
5. Jake Walker, 11, STA
6. Jimmy Stults, 12, Valley Center
160
1. Kyle Detmer, 12, Bishop Carroll
2. Jonathan Truman, 11, KMC
3. Tyler Baughman, 10, Lansing
4. Travis Rogers, 12, Newton
5. Andrew Rogers, 12, Mill Valley
6. Barrett Brantingham, 12, Shawnee Heights
171
1. Grant Hinckley, 12, Lansing
2. Dylan Matheny, 11, KMC
3. Greg Curtis, 12, Gardner Edgerton
4. Josh VanHolland, 12, Mill Valley
5. Garrett Garcia, 12, Newton
6. Cougar Vonfeldt, 12, Pittsburg
189
1. Mark Kolmer, 11, Emporia
2. Nate Davis, 12, Liberal
3. Jacob Nowak, 12, STA
4. Aron Elsen, 12, Great Bend
5. Nathaniel Martens, 12, Newton
6. Josiah Washington, 10, Andover Central
215
1. Howard Johnson, 12, Great Bend
2. Jake Cole, 12, Bishop Carroll
3. Kyle Pacheco, 10, Gardner Edgerton
4. Sean Soroko, 12, Topeka West
5. Matt Coombs, 11, STA
6. Leo Beck, 10, Mill Valley
285
1. Ricky Gomez, 12, Liberal
2. Jerrod Douglas, 12, Valley Center
3. Tony Marquez, 12, Bishop Carroll
4. Michael Starnes, 12, Andover Central
5. Lorenzo Serna, 11, Emporia
6. Pat Thomas, 12, Gardner Edgerton

The Ranking critic's comments:
The talk around the wrestlers in the state is that Rose is going 119, Dakin 125, and Sanchez 130. If so, all three of these wrestlers should be ranked. Nitcher has stated that he intends to wrestle 125, I don't see Penka at 125 and if he is he shouldn't be #1. You don't go from 2nd at 103 to #1 at 125 in one year. I thought Jake Sullivan wrestled 119 last year and now he is at 112? Wow! How does Victor Cruz get the nod over guys with years of experience and state credentials, that seems more like a prediction that a ranking. I am with 24/7, Blew should be number 2! Crank has told everyone he is going 140, and Watson 160. Nate Davis at 189, did he lose a limb??? Where is Jason Seibel? A Fargo AA and he doesn't get ranked??? Is his own father selling him short? smile Now for the real laugher, did you draw the 103lbers out of hat? Where is Tommy Williams? Bo Pursel and Aaron Seybold should be at the top, maybe you inadvertently transposed your rankings? smile Oh yeah, freshmen get no respect, I forgot that rule of thumb.

Others MIA: Ralph Salas, Tim Prescott, and Timmy Chadd, to name a few.

Seriously Greg, I do know you had to spend some valuable time on these, time you could have been spending with your wrestlers or your kids so I do appreciate your effort. To me it would just seem better to let someone outside of coaching handle these. These wrestlers email each other, use facebook, and talk. It seems crazy to me that they are saying they will be at one weight and their coach or maybe just the ranker is saying they will be at a different one. I am chilling, because I know it is just for entertainment.
Posted By: KansasBoy Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/21/08 04:25 AM
that great bend kid at 103 might have a hard time even making varsity
Posted By: sum876 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/21/08 12:05 PM
may i ask why colby watters and timothy prescott aren't even ranked?!
Posted By: Cokeley Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/21/08 12:43 PM
KSdriver, my bad, in my haste I left young Colby off the MIA list. Personally, I would rank him number 3 at 112. Mea culpa!
Posted By: sum876 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/21/08 03:33 PM
Watters will be going 103.
Posted By: Cokeley Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/21/08 07:07 PM
Can Watters hydrate? smile
Posted By: usa wrestling Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/22/08 01:04 AM
Gteat Bend so low hmm. Iam calling that Great Bend will be a schocker in 5a this year with 5 ranked and some kids that set out last year that will make an impact and louis Burley in the mix wouldnt surprise me if walked away with a team trophy this year.
Posted By: Magnum811 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/23/08 11:47 PM
And I am guessing "usa wrestling" will flunk english.
Posted By: JesusNmark1 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/23/08 11:57 PM
We all talk bettter than we tipe! dis-irregardless, i cant weight until the seeson starts!
Posted By: usa wrestling Re: 5A rankings are out... - 11/25/08 12:28 AM
Magnum811 and by the way i am not. And god for bid everyone to be perfect. Hope you have never spelled a word wrong or anything.
Posted By: JesusNmark1 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/09/08 01:11 AM
I know all are busy but just cant wait to ask-

with the first week sorting out will there be updates in 5A rankings?

Thanks
Posted By: bigfatwrestler Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/09/08 04:00 PM
i would also love to see an updated 5A ranking
Posted By: moutaineater Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/10/08 12:32 AM
Vance oliver went 135 vs maize and plans on staying there
Posted By: Josh Gutz Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/10/08 12:42 PM
Pre-season rankings 12/9
1. Emporia
2. Valley Center
3. Bishop Carroll
4. Liberal
5. Gardner Edgerton
6. Andover Central
7. Lansing
8. Salina South
9. Newton
10. Great Bend

103
1. Clint Stahl, 11, Newton
2. Aaron Seybold, 09, Pittsburg
3. Bo Pursel, 09, Lansing
4. Tommy Williams, 09, STA
5. Caleb Thomas, 00, Andover Central
6. NEED HELP

112
1. Adrian Salas, 11, Liberal
2. Caleb Seaton, 10, Bonner Springs
3. Trevor Boyer, 11, Mill Valley
4. Jake Sullivan, 11, Andover Central
5. Robert Arzola, 12, Turner
6. Aspen Kmiec, 10, Shawnee Heights

119
1. Tyler Stokes, 12, Gardner Edgerton
2. Blaine Smith, 11, Salina South
3. Jake Gentzler, 10, Andover Central
4. Garrett Jones, 11, Ark City
5. Mario Corado, 10, Pittsburg
6. Sasha Ambrose, 11, Bishop Miege

125
1. Dylan Penka, 10, Bishop Carroll
2. Justin Rose, 12, Emporia
3. Steven Plott, 11, Salina South
4. Nick Schwager, 11, Great Bend
5. Jake Umscheid, 10, Andover Central
6. Seth Kline, 11, Newton

130
1. Chase Nitcher, 11, Valley Center
2. Kash Biddle, 11, Ark City
3. Victor Cruz, 12, Liberal
4. Kasey Lien, 11, Salina South
5. Josh Umscheid, 12, Andover Central
6. Beau Hentzen, 12, Bishop Carroll

135
1. Sal Tovar, 12, Emporia
2. Dillon Scanlon, 10, Lansing
3. Matt Korte, 12, Mill Valley
4. Jacob Ingram, 11, Gardner Edgerton
5. Trent Hoover, 11, Salina South
6. Tyler Stremel, 12, Great Bend

140
1. Cade Blair, 11, Valley Center
2. Tyler Davis, 11, McPherson
3. Jake Mainz, 12, Bishop Carroll
4. Tavo Dikin, 12, Emporia
5. Jason Langford, 12, Turner
6. Vance Oliver, 11, Winfield

145
1. Colby Crank, 12, Hutchinson
2. Tyler Harradine, 11, Salina South
3. Austin Willis, 11, Shawnee Heights
4. James Mullin, 12, Mill Valley
5. Daniel Blair, 11, Pittsburg
6. Kyle McGoldrick, 11, Valley Center

152
1. Chris Watson, 12, Andover Central
2. Jordan Brown, 12, Pittsburg
3. Todd Curtis, 11, Gardner Edgerton
4. Tyler Sutherland, 12, Liberal
5. Jake Walker, 11, STA
6. Jimmy Stults, 12, Valley Center

160
1. Kyle Detmer, 12, Bishop Carroll
2. Jonathan Truman, 11, KMC
3. Tyler Baughman, 10, Lansing
4. Travis Rogers, 12, Newton
5. Andrew Rogers, 12, Mill Valley
6. Barrett Brantingham, 12, Shawnee Heights

171
1. Grant Hinckley, 12, Lansing
2. Dylan Matheny, 11, KMC
3. Greg Curtis, 12, Gardner Edgerton
4. Josh VanHolland, 12, Mill Valley
5. Garrett Garcia, 12, Newton
6. Cougar Vonfeldt, 12, Pittsburg

189
1. Mark Kolmer, 11, Emporia
2. Nate Davis, 12, Liberal
3. Jacob Nowak, 12, STA
4. Aron Elsen, 12, Great Bend
5. Nathaniel Martens, 12, Newton
6. Josiah Washington, 10, Andover Central

215
1. Howard Johnson, 12, Great Bend
2. Jake Cole, 12, Bishop Carroll
3. Kyle Pacheco, 10, Gardner Edgerton
4. Sean Soroko, 12, Topeka West
5. Matt Coombs, 11, STA
6. Leo Beck, 10, Mill Valley

285
1. Ricky Gomez, 12, Liberal
2. Michael Starnes, 12, Andover Central
3. Tony Marquez, 12, Bishop Carroll
4. Lorenzo Serna, 11, Emporia
5. Jerrod Douglas, 12, Valley Center
6. Pat Thomas, 12, Gardner Edgerton

Greg Buckbee
5A Rankings Coordinator
Posted By: GEwrestler135 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/10/08 01:02 PM
at 135 jake ingram from gardner is wrestling 145
Posted By: Coach Alley Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/10/08 01:42 PM
Joe Washington, Andover Central at 189 has left the team and should be removed from the rankings.

Shae Hinman, Andover Central defeated Stremel of Great Bend last weekend at 135.
Posted By: 24/7 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/10/08 01:58 PM
I still say Spencer Blew of Lansing has to be ranked at 130. He is 5-0 with 5 pins. At 145 Tyler Terron of Lansing beat Mullin of Mill Valley and is 5-0. 189 Nathan Wessel of Lansing beat Van Holland of Mill Valley I believe who is ranked at 171 and is also 5-0.

24/7
Posted By: bigfatwrestler Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/10/08 02:02 PM
apparently you're a fan of lansing. I dont see spencer blew beating anybody that is ranked at 130 anytime soon. sorry buddy
Posted By: 24/7 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/10/08 02:13 PM
I am from Lansing and I guess we will see in the end. My personal opinion is he will beat all but Nitcher. Blew is ranked 6th in the all class ahead of most of these kids. Again I guess we will see.


24/7
Posted By: MANRUH Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/10/08 11:49 PM
where is lansing?
Posted By: rassler Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/11/08 12:17 AM
in michigan
Posted By: MANRUH Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/11/08 12:19 AM
dang thats crazy. thanks
Posted By: badbo Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/11/08 02:34 AM
Lansing is 20 miles northwest of KC. Right by Leavenworth.

Posted By: KCRealtor Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/11/08 02:39 AM
Tyler Terron is a very fine wrestler, but he has has never beaten Mullin of Mill Valley. Mullin is 2-0 vs. Terron. Last Saturday Terron faced Dalton Ellis from Mill Valley, the JV rep at 140 lbs who wrestled up for the sake of practice.
Posted By: 24/7 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/11/08 12:51 PM
KC Realtor-My bad. I did not have rosters. I just knew Tyler beat the MV 140 and that the MV 140 was ranked. I did not know they subbed for another kid. Thanks and good luck.


24/7
Posted By: con-wrestler Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/13/08 02:43 PM
super steve plott at 125, he's gonna take state
Posted By: Beeson Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/19/08 01:27 AM
Colby Watters sure looked good tonite at 103...might be time for him to break into the rankings.
Posted By: doug747 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/19/08 02:15 AM
My opinion is that Colby and Bo Pursel would be a good match, with Colby having a pretty good size advantage. I don't know the Newton kid, but if he is for real, him, Bo, and Colby are the top 3. Is the reason you have Seybold ahead of Bo, that he is bigger? Haven't seen Seybold for a while to know.
Posted By: Beeson Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/19/08 02:18 AM
Colby beat the Newton kid 9-1, and dang near had him pinned.
Posted By: doug747 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/19/08 02:48 AM
That takes care of that. Bo and Colby at the 1 or 2 slots, then fill in behind them.
Posted By: wrestlingman1 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/19/08 05:26 AM
yeeaa watters wrestled reeeaall well i saw him last year and he was good but this year he is just excellent, i wuld like to c wat he does with the rest of his year.
Posted By: 24/7 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/19/08 02:48 PM
Colby and Aaron Seybold are great wrestlers. There are some others I am sure as well that I am not familiar with. It's good talk but it will all sort itself out. Time will tell if Bo is big enough to wrestle with them. He usually figures out a way to be competitive. Whether he wins or not who knows. He will be giving up probably 15 pounds to Colby and about 12 to Seybold. Over 10% is alot for any kid to overcome. Bo weighs about 102-103. But Bo will get what he earns, he always has. My completely honest opinion as I have stated before, is that no 103 should be cutting from over 110. They can't be hydrated cutting more than that when these kids only have 5-6% body fat. But it is what it is. Bo has never looked for any excuses and will not accept any. He wants to win just like every other kid when he steps on the mat. Good luck to all the kids. Bo will see Aaron at the Bobcat possibly. They are great friends and I am sure it will be a good match. Cobly is not on the Lansing schedule but I know he and Aaron are both at Derby. Another kid getting no publicity but just as good is Tim Prescott. He will be a factor in the end. Time will sort all this out, and I am sure Stahl, Dean, Dakin, Thomas, Prescott, Williams and many others will have a say. There is a long way to go in the season. I expect they will all get beat several times to be honest. Thanks and Merry Christmas.

24/7
Posted By: Beeson Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/19/08 04:46 PM
Colby had to make 103 in the morning for the dual on Thursday. Made 104 Friday morning for Perry and made 104 that night for Perry. Looks like to me he can hold the weight fairly easy...translation...HYDRATED. This is the second time you have questioned his hydration. Don't beat around the bush, accuse him of cheating or leave it alone.
Posted By: 24/7 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/19/08 06:08 PM
I wish Colby well and hope he has a great season.

24/7
Posted By: aj75 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/20/08 04:20 AM
my son pablo wrestled him a couple times last year in middle school and both times came up a little short! they were very good, nail bitting matches! colby is just plain and simple a superb wrestler! he is solid and has excellent technique! off the mat he is a great kid with excellent sportsmanship! i know pablo and colby talked quite a bit each time they faced each other! Colby have a great season and continue the great work!


aj75
newton mom
Posted By: JesusNmark1 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 12/21/08 03:38 PM
Emporia, Bishop Carroll, Gardner-Edgerton all had good tournament performances this weekend-

135

Sal Tovar Emp
Dillian Scanion- Lansing
Micah Flora-Swick-GE

Matt Korte did not place at the Johnson County Classic. Pinned in first round of brackets by Flora-Swick.
Posted By: flow_rider Re: 5A rankings are out... - 01/02/09 03:03 AM
how come dryden is not ranked at 103
Posted By: Chief Renegade Re: 5A rankings are out... - 01/02/09 02:26 PM
Originally Posted By: flow_rider
how come dryden is not ranked at 103


fr,

When you post about a wrestler being ranked, the best way to pose the issue would be to include criteria. That helps the ranker and avoids the back and forth. Just a suggestion.

Thanks!
Posted By: back in the day Re: 5A rankings are out... - 01/02/09 07:36 PM
Chief

It does not seem to matter what information is sent or listed - when the rankings are not updated. Perhaps you could assist?
Posted By: BigPin22 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 02/25/09 04:34 PM
Originally Posted By: doug747
My opinion is that Colby and Bo Pursel would be a good match, with Colby having a pretty good size advantage. I don't know the Newton kid, but if he is for real, him, Bo, and Colby are the top 3. Is the reason you have Seybold ahead of Bo, that he is bigger? Haven't seen Seybold for a while to know.


Have you seen enough of Seybold now to give him any credit?
Posted By: RichardDSalyer Re: 5A rankings are out... - 02/25/09 04:53 PM
Originally Posted By: BigPin22
Have you seen enough of Seybold now to give him any credit?


I will give him credit. Outstanding match with the Ark City wrestler in the finals at the Andover Central Regional.

I was impressed with Brown, Corado, Koehn, and Von Feldt. Coach Rieck will have his team ready.

As a side note, kindly relay a message to Denny that a fellow referee at the Andover Central Regional, while chuckling, stated Denny's wife was WAY too pretty for him.

Posted By: BigPin22 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 02/25/09 05:47 PM
Yes, Pittsburg qualified nine (six in the finals) wrestlers. That is the most they have ever qualified for state! Congrats!

I really expected Corado to be finals. Hopefuly he will be at state.


I'm pretty sure Denny has heard that before but I will let him know. lol
Posted By: Ledford Re: 5A rankings are out... - 02/26/09 01:36 AM
No way Corado will be in finals....That bracket is stacked!! You have Gentzler, Jones and Smith..No way he beats any of them.. He will finish 4th..
Posted By: nastyway Re: 5A rankings are out... - 02/26/09 01:43 AM
I agree corado doesn't have a chance at the finals he better hope he doesn't run into any of the mentioned or it will game over.
Posted By: BigPin22 Re: 5A rankings are out... - 02/26/09 02:18 AM
I understand that he is not the favorite to be in the finals but to say he doesn't have a chance is crazy!!!! He lost to Gentzler by 2 points by a late takedown. He beat Blaine Smith at the southern plains this summer. He is very capable of being in the finals and winning it! He is also capable of losing his first match against Wauer.
Posted By: HEADUP Re: 5A rankings are out... - 02/26/09 10:43 AM
anyone counting out corado, must have missed his match with gentzler. gentzler won with 4 seconds on the clock, and gentzler's dad will tell you he should have been dinged for stalling (took only 1 shot the whole match).like mario's strength had him baffled. great match, and a very heads up takedown to win it. that was probably the toughest regional at any weight any class. those four will be there again, maybe different order this time. who knows.

i will see denny tonight at practice, i'm sure he will have "good" reasons to state his case, none of which are appropriate for this forum, or even true. i will give that message. lol.

the dragons are looking real good heading into state, good luck to all.
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