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Posted By: orange09 BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/20/09 07:42 PM
Any body have any predictions on Beloit 1/23,1/24

Abilene, Belleville-Republic County, Beloit, Bennington, Clay Center, Colby, Concordia, Hill City, Hoxie, Lincoln, Marysville, Minneapolis, Oberlin, Plainville, Sabetha, Salina South, Silver Lake, Smith Center, Stockton
Posted By: back in the day Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/20/09 08:07 PM
why the angry face? Scary
Posted By: Westkan11 Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/20/09 08:52 PM
Colby
Clay Center
Smith Center
Beloit
Silver Lake
Posted By: Crossface King Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/21/09 03:54 AM
1. Colby
2. Clay Center
3. Smith Center
4. Abilene
5. Beloit
6. Silver Lake
#1,2,&4 ranked 4A teams
# 2,3,4,&8 ranked 321A teams
103, 119, 125, 135, 145, 152, 160, 171, 189, 215, & 285 all will have some excellent wrestling going on. Several highly ranked wrestlers in all of these classes.
This is an excellent 4A vs 321A tournament.
Can anyone tell me when the finals start?
Posted By: Nate Naasz Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/21/09 12:39 PM
Schedule of Events:

Friday, 1/23
2:00 pm 1st Round--4 mats
4:00 pm Quarterfinals--4 mats
6:00 pm 1st Round Consolation--4 mats
WEIGH-IN

Saturday, 1/24
9:30 am Wrestlebacks 2nd Round--4 mats
11:00 am Semi-finals--2 mats
Consolation Quarterfinals--2 mats
2:00 pm Consolation Semi-Finals--4 mats
3:15 pm Consolation Finals (3rd, 5th)--4 mats
5:00 pm Championship Finals--1 mat
Posted By: RJW1 Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/21/09 03:53 PM
Just going off the rankings, here is who is at Beloit (assuming they are healthy and ranked at the weight they will wrestle this weekend??)

Ranked Teams
Abilene #4 in 4A
Clay Center #2 in 4A
Colby #1 in 4A
Oberlin #8 in 321A
Salina South #8 in 5A
Silver Lake #3 in 321A
Smith Center #2 in 321A

Ranked Individuals

103
4. Skylar Goepfert-Marysville-11
6. Skylar Constable-Minneapolis-9
1. Luke Cole Abilene 12
3. Konnor Kriss Colby 9
6. Ty Kolterman Clay Center 9

112
4. Nathan Reed Colby 11

119
1. Dan Weigel-Plainville-12
3. Brett LaMar-Silver Lake-11
5. Carlos Galloway-Stockton-12
2. Blaine Smith, 11, Salina South
2. Logan Singular Clay Center 11

125
4. Steven Plott, 11, Salina South
6. Brandon Charbonneau Clay Cnt 9

130
1. Colt Rogers-Smith Center-11
6. Kasey Lien, 11, Salina South
5. Jayde Kolterman Clay Center 10

135
2. Cade Hewitt-Beloit-12
3. Ricky Creek-Marysville-12
3. Tyler Anderson Clay Center 11

140
1. Dustin Zharhorsky- Silver Lake-12
5. Jason Seibel, 11, Salina South

145
1. Cas Spangler-Beloit-12
3. Trevor Rempe-Smith Center-12
4. Kyle Wichman-Silver Lake-12
4. Tyler Harradine, 11, Salina South
2. Quinton Wuthnow Abilene 12

152
1. Collin Loomis-Beloit-12
2. Marshall McCall-Smith Center-12
3. Evertt Urban-Oberlin-12
5. Colten Picking Abilene 10
6. Ethan Stickle Colby 11

160
1. Travis Rempe-Smith Center-12
2. Ryan Wuthnow Abilene 12
3. Zach Anderson Clay Center 11

171
2. Nathan Simonsson-Oberlin-12
5. Matt Atwood-Smith Center-11
1. Breck Arnberger Colby 12
2. Tyler Hassenbank Concordia 12

189
1. Sawyer Krone-Beloit-12
1. Joel Marrs Clay Center 12
3. Treat Bugbee Colby 12
4. Taylor Wuthnow Abilene 11

215
1. Tanner Kriss Colby 12
2. Michael Patenaude Clay Cnt 12
4. Levi Kindel Concordia 12

285
3. Dillion Salmans-Hoxie-10
5. Tyler Jamis-Beloit-12
3. Tyler Gjerstad Abilene 11

I just did a quick copy and paste and may have missed a ranked guy or two by mistake, but here you go. I'm sure there are unranked guys that will also make some noise and I predict nothing!
Posted By: DamonParker Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/21/09 04:30 PM
When did Manhattan stop attending this tournament?
Posted By: MAS Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/21/09 04:59 PM
Originally Posted By: DamonParker
When did Manhattan stop attending this tournament?

This year
Posted By: Westkan11 Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/21/09 06:19 PM
Interesting test of the big school bias in the individual all classification rankings at 119.

(weigel and lamar, ranked 1 and 2 in 3-2-1a are ranked 10th (tie) in all-classification rankings and two of the bigger school kids ranked ahead of them will be there). results won't prove anything but it does provide an interesting test of the bigger is better theory.
Posted By: bigfatwrestler Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/21/09 07:03 PM
Rusty Yarrow from clay center i know has held jason siebel to a couple of close matches. should be an interesting tournament
Posted By: 321a Wrestler Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/22/09 01:54 AM
Orr from hill city wull be in the top 4 at 130 also tyler johnson from stockton will be in the mix
Posted By: chewie Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/22/09 03:24 AM
If Hill City makes the trip.
Posted By: DamonParker Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/22/09 02:08 PM
Originally Posted By: MAS
Originally Posted By: DamonParker
When did Manhattan stop attending this tournament?

This year


That's too bad. I always thought this was one of the best tournaments of the year. I believe MHS was the only 6A team that regularly attended the Beloit tournament. I was always surprised that more 5 & 6A schools didn't take advantage of the great competition that can't be found anywhere else that week of the year.
Posted By: RichardDSalyer Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/22/09 02:19 PM
Damon:

If I remember correctly, Coach Gonzales reworked the Manhattan High School schedule in order for his team to attend the Flatwater Fracas; a two day dual team tournament in Nebraska, and in order to comply with the KSHSAA points regulation, the Beloit Tournament was dropped.

Posted By: parkwayred Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/22/09 09:12 PM
Richard please correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that Blue Valley is a two day tourney which is the same as Beloit so points are not an issue. My gut says that Coach was trying to mix more 6A schools into his bag than standing with “ in your face Western Kansas style” Beloit is if not the best, one of the finest venues for High school wrestling in the State. I was personally and truly disappointed to see Manhattan get out of the tremendous opportunity to be part of the Beloit tradition. The kids from the west always brought their A game to prove that East Kansas just think they know smash mouth wrestling. Damon understands what I'm talking about!
Posted By: jojo Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/22/09 09:34 PM
I talked to Gonz at the Newton tourney and he told me it was because they needed to face more 6A teams for seeding purposes when it came time for regionals.
Posted By: Westkan11 Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/22/09 09:57 PM
Originally Posted By: parkwayred
Richard please correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that Blue Valley is a two day tourney which is the same as Beloit so points are not an issue. My gut says that Coach was trying to mix more 6A schools into his bag than standing with “ in your face Western Kansas style” Beloit is if not the best, one of the finest venues for High school wrestling in the State. I was personally and truly disappointed to see Manhattan get out of the tremendous opportunity to be part of the Beloit tradition. The kids from the west always brought their A game to prove that East Kansas just think they know smash mouth wrestling. Damon understands what I'm talking about!


welp, you're going to find out if all that trash talk is true. lots of ranked 4 and 5 a kids going up against ranked 3a and below kids (who are for the most part "western." Overall rankings don't give the small school kids much of a shot.
Posted By: RichardDSalyer Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/22/09 10:02 PM
Originally Posted By: Westkan11
you're going to find out if all that trash talk is true. lots of ranked 4 and 5 a kids going up against ranked 3a and below kids (who are for the most part "western." Overall rankings don't give the small school kids much of a shot.
Some of us have learned to never underestimate the small school kids.
Posted By: Ricky Bobby Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 12:35 AM
Let’s let the matches do the jawin' and not worry about some fancy pants overall rankin'. You might jest be in fer a surprise when sum of yer “big school” boys is countin’ lights.



But seriously the overall talent in 3A is not as up to snuff as it has been in years past. But, nevertheless this should be an interesting tournament with some of the top “small programs” in the state squaring off.
Posted By: Husker Fan Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 01:11 PM
Originally Posted By: Ricky Bobby
Let’s let the matches do the jawin' and not worry about some fancy pants overall rankin'. You might jest be in fer a surprise when sum of yer “big school” boys is countin’ lights...


Ricky Bobby I know you have vehemently denied it to me in the past when I have suggested that you might be the return of Gutwrench1 . I will have to take you at your word on your denial.

I have to say though that your comment above about the big school boys countin ligts is very similar to the way old gutwrench suggested to Andy Hurla about what was going to happen to him and the rest of the Kansas City Kansas metro wrestlers against the KCMO metro wrestlers. I believe he said something about them staring at the ceiling lights legs a kickin and counting the junebugs. I probably do not have that exact since it has been almost three years ago but your comment does remind me of gutwrench's.
Posted By: Ricky Bobby Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 02:53 PM
Do we really have to open this can of worms again? I am not that MISERY luvin' Gutwrench1. You can believe me when I say this cause Ricky Bobby’s word is stronger than oak.
Posted By: Husker Fan Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 03:06 PM
Okay Ricky I won't accuse you of being gutwrench1 anymore. But now I got to ask are you really Will Ferrell?
Posted By: DamonParker Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 03:20 PM
I was on some fairly decent teams at Manhattan. When I was in high school MHS was the biggest 6A school in the state. We went to Beloit and every year teams like Hoxie (you'll have to help me with enrollment...I seem to remember something like 200 students) would give us everything we could handle. I don't know if it's still the same way, but it used to be that if you wanted great competition, you wouldn't head East on 70.
Posted By: GregMann Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 03:56 PM
Damon,

When you were in high school Hoxie probably had no more than 150 kids in 9-12. In the late 90's and early 00's they had an amazing run of talent,which when coupled with their great tradition and outstanding coaching made them almost bulletproof and unbeatable--regardless of classification.

Greg Mann
Norton, KS
Posted By: Tom Heier Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 04:52 PM
Pamon Darker makes an appearance!! Now if we could only get Prant back!!
Posted By: DamonParker Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 05:10 PM
Who is this Pamon Darker you speak of? Never heard of him.
Posted By: DamonParker Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 05:11 PM
Originally Posted By: Egg
Damon,

When you were in high school Hoxie probably had no more than 150 kids in 9-12. In the late 90's and early 00's they had an amazing run of talent,which when coupled with their great tradition and outstanding coaching made them almost bulletproof and unbeatable--regardless of classification.

Greg Mann
Norton, KS


IIRC, Norton has had some pretty decent teams as well, regardless of classification. smile
Posted By: chewie Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 05:23 PM
Originally Posted By: DamonParker
Who is this Pamon Darker you speak of? Never heard of him.


With a name like Pamon he sounds like a loser. wink
Posted By: DamonParker Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 06:35 PM
TOTAL loser. I bet he's handsome, though.
Posted By: GregMann Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 08:47 PM
Yes, Norton has also had,fairly recently, moments of relative fame and success. Again, great talent backed by tradition and joined with great coaching is hard to beat!

Greg Mann,
Norton
Posted By: Westkan11 Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 09:56 PM
If anybody gets results from today it would be great to hear.

Thanks,
Posted By: moeder Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/23/09 10:11 PM
Westkan11 - go to the KFNF radio website/Oberlin. They are doing live coverage as we speak. I just turned it on so dont have any results to speak of. Heard Flanagin of Colby win, Anderson of Clay Center win, Arnberger of Colby win, right now on the 189lb bracket with Bugby of Colby leading 6-2 over Dickerson of Abiline in the 1st.
Posted By: moeder Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/24/09 12:00 AM
Tried to catch the list of championship semis for tomorrow, but they went too fast, here is what I did catch: (forgive incorreclty spelled names)

103 Kriss/Goepfert Cole/Jones
112 Reed/Galloway Werner/?(minneapolis?)
119 Lamar/Smith Singular/Weigel
125 Slott? Sal. S./? ?/Charboneau
130 Rogers/?(Abiline) ?(S. Lake)/Lien
135 Anderson/?(SM. Center) Marysville/Beloit
140 Zahorsky
145 Spangler/Withnuw Silv.Lk/Rempe
152 Sm Ctr/Concord. Urban/Loomis (sp?)
160 Flanagin
171 Arnberger/Davis
189 Bugbee/Crone? Marrs/Cline
215 Kriss/Hager Withnuw/Patton
285 Weber/Salmans Jamis(?) Beloit/?(Abiline)
Posted By: chewie Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/24/09 02:06 AM
140 Zahorsky/Yarrow
160 Rempe/Flanagin Wuthnow/Anderson
Posted By: Coach Brown Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/24/09 05:14 AM
Here are the updated semis for ya from he Holiday Inn in Concordia.

Team Scores
1. Clay 84
2. Colby 81
3. Beloit 75
4. Smith Center 65
5. Abilene 57
6. Salina South 51.5
7. Minneapolis 41
8. Silver Lake 40
9. Concordia 27
Hoxie 27
Plainville 27

103
Cole(abl) vs Jones(hox)
Kriss(col) vs Goepfert(mary)

112
Reed(col) vs Gallaway(stk)
Werner(plv) vs Trahan(minn)

119
Lamar(sl) vs Smith(sal)
Singular(cc) vs Weigel(plv)

125
Plott(sal) vs Corman(min)
Schroeder(col) vs Charbonneau(cc)

130
Rogers(sc) vs Strauss(abl)
White(sl) vs Lien(sal)

135
ANderson(cc) vs Newell(sc)
Creek(mary) vs Hewitt(bel)

140
Zharosky(sl) vs Yarrow(cc)
Eaton(benn) vs Seibel(sal)

145
Spangler(bel) vs Wuthnow(abl)
Wichman(sl) vs Rempe(sc)

152
McCall(sc) vs Loeffer(con)
Urban(obr) vs Loomis(bel)

160
Rempe(sc) vs Flanagin(col)
Anderson(cc) vs Withnow(abl)

171
Amberger(col) vs Davis(cc)
Atwood(sc) vs Hasenabnk(con)

189
Marrs(cc) vs Lehmann(sc)
Bugbee(col) vs Krone(bel)

215
Kriss(col) vs Hager(bel)
Wuthnow(abl) vs Patenaude(cc)

285
Salmans(hox) vs Weber(col)
Jamis(bel) vs Gjerstad(abl)


Brown
Posted By: flamingo Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/24/09 05:15 AM
your the man brown!!!
Posted By: NCKL Fan Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/24/09 05:51 PM
The semi-finals should be complete now. Anyone have any result?
Posted By: RDfan Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/24/09 06:11 PM
Beloit finals
103 – Cole (abl) v. Kriss (col)
112 – Reed (col) v. Werner (plv)
119 – Smith (sal) v. Weigel (plv)
125 – Plott (sal) v. Charbonneau (cc)
130 – Rogers (sc) v. Lien (sal)
135 – Anderson (cc) v. Hewitt (bel)
140 – Zahorsky (sl) v. Seibel (sal)
145 – Spangler (bel) v. Rempe (sc)
152 – McCall (sc) v. Loomis (bel)
160 – Rempe (sc) v. Withnow (abl)
171 – Arnberger (col) v. Hasenabnk (con)
189 – Marrs (cc) v. Bugbee (col)
215 – Kriss (col) v. Patenaude (cc)
285 – Salmans (hox) v. Jamis (bel)
Posted By: Black Machine Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/24/09 06:49 PM
Team Scores (top 6) thru Semi-Finals and Cons. QF

Colby 171
Clay Center 158
Smith Center 137
Beloit 129
Salina South 109
Abilene 88
Posted By: NCKL Fan Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/24/09 07:22 PM
Thank you for the update!
Posted By: Westkan11 Re: BIG BELOIT TOURNY 1/23 1/24 2009 - 01/24/09 07:37 PM
Wonderful updates! Thanks.
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