Who knows whos going to be in the metro, its only like 8 days away
Be patient, they have finalized most of it but there are some injuries and some final things to take care of and it should be announced in the next couple of days if not today. Its coming.
I was wondering if they were going to try and get Bogart SMS and Roath Washington both in there, just make 1 of them pull the weight?
From what I understand, there will be quite a few, "pulling" weight.
I can't wait till Tuesday evening!!!!
The line-up is in today's KC Star. I see we omitted George Roath, State Champion, and opted for a kid who got 4th. Not to take anything away from the Sabetha kid, but exactly what did we need to do to get him in there? Yes, he was nominated, Yes he is Wyandotte County's only State Champion, Yes, the Classic is held in Wyandotte County, Yes, I am upset! Did we get asked......NO!
If it is indeed in the KC Star, can someone post the lineup
I was just wondering who was in the Metro's. I was unable to find it in the KC Star online so i was wondering if someone could post it please.
Thanks
The Metro Classic is:
Patton- Wellsville 112
Gardner- S. Heights 112
McCormick - BV North 119
Sielert - O South 125
Oswald - Atchison County 130
Bogart - SM South 135
Pyle - Sabetha 140
Iberra - St. Aquinas 145
Hart - Shawnee Heights 152
Buck - Basehor Linwood 152
Madill - Lawrence 160
Lattimer - Fort Scott 171
Pingleton - Mill Valley 189
Lyons - Atchison County 215
Kimzey - Prairie View 275
I agree Roath should be in the classic. He a good wrestler, a state champion and he lives right here in Kansas City KS. At state Roath pinned his way to the finals. What an oversight!!!
Pyle didnt do to much lol
4 time state placer
first as a freshman
first as a sophomore
third as a junior losing to Drennan
fourth as a senior losing to Johnson and Englebert
If he would have had better competition during the season may have done better at state, not taking anything awa from Johnson or Englebert but before state didnt have any one take him to the second period so I have heard.
Pyle is a two timer and four time placer, and his losses were to other state champs in the toughest weight class in any of the state tourneys he is no slouch and neither is Roath for sure. Lattimer of Fort Scott is wrestling instead of Buck. Buck has a seperated shoulder that occurred during the state tourney.
Excuse me Buck is not wrestling and Lattimore was already in I will post his replacement in a moment. Sorry.
I wonder how many time have there been a Kansas senior who was a state champion and didn't make the Metro Classic???
Don't twist my comment I never mentioned Pyle in them. Take my post for as one-sided as they are. Basically I'm sayin this is the METRO i mean METRO Classic. We have a true kids right here in the METRO who is a State Champion. This is in no way shape or form a put down on Pyle. PERIOD
Quite a few times Travis. I like Roath a lot and he did a great job but if you want to be real honest about it the weight wasn't awfully difficult and he beat a freshman with 10 losses in the finals. Pyle won two state championships already, placed four times, has a win over the two timer that beat him a year ago, got beat by a state champion at the state tourney, it just comes down to situations and matchups. That takes nothing away from Roath he did a magnificent job, I am just saying those are the things that factor into it. Pyle is a heck of a wrestler. I think he only has about five losses in his life.
In 2001 Jimmy Vogel of Bonner Springs won state and was not chosen to compete in the metro classic.
I think either one would do well!
The rule is they have to be from within 75 miles as the crow flies from the Juco. Sabetha is 68. We have had a Sabetha wrestler before in the classic. They have had a Knob Knoster kid before in the Classic.
OK thinks for the rationale
I heard today that there were several coaches around who were a little upset at the deal about several wrestlers at several weights. It is a really tough deal and I know they work very hard on it and spend weeks making decisions on it that are as fair as they can be with them. Sometimes it is just a tough deal. I know we had some at Schlagle way back when that I wanted in but there were just a lot of factors. They do all they can do with it though and it is very difficult to seperate them and of course it is a match everyone wants to win too lol and that has become a factor in this little grudge match.
By the way if you all look at some of the Missouri boards those little fellas are talking bad about the good boys again. Lots of mouth going on over there as usual. Makes for a spicey little match doesn't it
David Mullins of Gardner Edgerton is the 152 pounder. He was 38-7 and took 3rd this year.
Interesting match-ups
119 Brett Watkins 44/0 State Champ
against
Tyler McCormick 46/0 State Champ
Cale Griffin 43/0 State Champ
Against
Stewart Bogart 40/0 State Champ
Justin Cole 48/1 State Champ (Former Desoto Kids wrestler)
Against
Matt Pyle
Keith Dickey 40/0 4x State Champ
against
David Sielert 36/3 State Champ
Not bad huh. It is always fun to see those kinds of matchups and always surprising how they turn out both ways. Sort of a pre college feel to it most of the time.
Travis, I wasnt talking to you, I was just telling coach Penca what Pyle had done
Aiight thanks cuz I'm in the business of promoting kids and wrestling. I didn't want to put anyone down.
... "a little grudge match" ... I would say so!
What a lineup! But, I doubt if we can compete, considering what I read on the Missouri board!
David Mullins from Gardner Edgerton is wrestling at 152 pounds. He placed 2nd at state behind Pietzyk from Salina South, however, Mullins beat Pietzyk earlier in the season.
Congratulations David and Good Luck at the Classic.
Lyons didn't even wrestle 215 this year and he is a long way away from KC. I think Paxton should have made it.
Lyons was rated #1 in the state until he dropped to 189 after the 1st of the year. So, yes I know for a fact that he wrestled at 215 this year and Effingham is within 75 miles of KC so he is in fact eligible to be in the Metro...
I didn't say he was ineligible and I know he wrestle at 215, but only for the first coulple meets.
Lyons wrestled 215 at the Larry Tilton Classic and beat Paxton in the finals. Further more his school district comes right up the the Leavonworth Co line and is well in the metro area. As for Pyle, I will be shocked if he is not a Kansas win. I know there are lots of good kids who couold have been in but it would be real nice if the whole state would get behind the team that has been selected and pull for "another" Kansas win.
GO KANSAS!!!
Looks pretty good on paper with Kansas winning 8 of the 15. Good luck to all our wrestlers.
Anyone have predictions?
112 Buetler vs Patton -- Patton plus bonus pts
112 Cookston vs Gardner -- Gardner plus bonus pts
119 Brett Watkins vs McCormick -- toss up
125 K. Dickey vs Seilert -- Dickey plus bonus pts
130 Josh Moyer vs Oswald -- Moyer plus bonus pts
135 Cale Griffin vs Bogart -- toss up
140 Justin Cole vs Pyle -- Cole dec
145 Brock Whittmeyer vs Ibarra -- Whittmeyer Pin
152 James Williamson vs Mullins -- Williamson Pin
152 Rodney Pettit vs Hart -- Hart Tech Fall
160 John Jarred vs Medill -- Jarred Dec
171 Jesse Sheets vs Lattimer - Lattimer Dec (though somebody is getting thrown in this one)
189 Mark Wall vs Pingleton -- toss up
215 Drew Marriott vs Lyons -- Lyons Pin
275 Doug Mitchell vs Kimzey -- Kimzey dec
"On Paper" it is KS 25 -- MO 27 with three toss ups. Bonus points are going to decide this one.
Question on the Missouri Board - they adhered to a 50 mile limit from KC city limts while Kansas has a 75 mile limit from the suburbs. They are screamin' murder on that one.
Well they need to come to the meetings and see what it is for sure because it has been 75 miles for years. This is old news. They have had a knob knoster kid in the past. Nobody screamed about that because lots of people go to the meetings and are up on the rules of the gig. They scream when they don't have a clue what they are talking about. Same old same old
I don't know many of the missouri wrestlers but from what i know of the kansas wrestlers these predictions seem a little strange. I also can't see that many pins and tech falls among good wrestlers. During the Kansas 3A finals there were no pins or tech falls and only one major decision. In fact, I can only recall one wrestler scoring near falls. I think these predictions are out there a bit and I see mostly close matches.
KANSAS FAN PREDICTION PINGLETON(SP)LOSES. WEISHAAR WOULD WIN. GO LYONS.
Hey White I think there is another thread for that deal, might as well not screw up two of them.
Sure Pyle is deserving, but I just thought they could accomodate Roath as well. I notice there are 15 matches, including 2 at 152. Obviously, exceptions were made to allow for this. As I stated when we nominated him, he could wrestle 130, 135, or 140 just to get him in there. Surely, Missouri has another kid. Why 2 matches at 152? Yes, we beat a kid (Bailes) with 10 losses in the finals, but Bailes is a good wrestler who pinned Riley of Salina South to earn his way there. Yes, Roath is only our 2nd State Champion in school history (Elmer 83, the other)but the mere fact is he won, changes were made for others, and we are approximately 1 mile from the venue. We would easily have sold 50-75 tickets from his family and staff members who have this happening right in their back yard. If I dont stand up for him, then who does?
Brook; You have actually had more than that there. They had a heavyweight back inthe 50's and when Ronnie Elmer won it they had another whos name escapes me now, but Harless will know if you are putting some history together. He had two that one year. I don't really know what was available for matches because I wasn't in on any of that process. I know it hurts to have a kid feel left out and he really did do a great job. Congratulations to him.
Rick Kepler in 71 was a state champ for washington and I think the other kid I was thinking about took second.
The Metro Classic is a fun and very worthwhile event and we want to keep it that way. So I have to caution this and future selection committees about the litigious world in which we live. The event draws many college coaches and a few scholarships are at stake. So when kids like George Roath, Kevin Ecker or whomever get overlooked, it's a little more than pride and honor that gets dashed. It's the potential to win scholarships worth thousands of dollars. I wonder how confident the selection committee might be in their choices if they realized that each could be held responsible for damages to wrestlers and their families if challenged in the Wyandotte County or Kansas City, Kansas Courts? That would be a terrible thing, but a real possibility. If I were on a selection committee, I'd want to have more than a compass to explain how the "crow flies" to Sabetha or Fort Scott to defend myself. I'd want very clear, established, published, legal rules and when in doubt a wrestle-off to determine the team and to protect myself and the future of the Metro Classic.
Well put Mizzou. I would have been inclusionary rather than exclusionary with these 2 wrestlers not really from the "lawsuit" aspect, but rather because they are both 2 time State Medalists. It's not like they are "One Hit Wonders" though State Champion and State runner-up are hefty feats in themselves.
I think that everyone on here knows what would happen if a comittee decided event such as the Metro were sued because of possible loss of scholarship money. Instead of fighting the lawsuit and chancing that the comittee's judgement would cost the state money and a huge black eye, they would just say forget it and cancel the whole event. Now, do you think some parents of Wyandotte county or Kansas City wrestlers would want to be the blame for the possible loss of 30 kids' scholarships? Unfortunately most people are so "out to get theirs" that I doubt that this thought would even cross their minds on the way to the court house.
Westfahl, before you get to full of yourself, the person who confirmed the 50 mile rule on the missouri board was Bob Glasgow, coach of Oak Grove. He served on the original committee that planned and established this event. I think he might know better than some keybord warrior. He also stated that in some instances there have been exceptions made to establish matches.
He need to go to all the meetings and it has always been 75 miles and it has nothing to do with my ego.
You know what I like about this Missouri thing is that everyone gets so instantly mouthy over it. Keyboard warrior huh. We have been answering that question about the 75 mile rule every single year since the thing was started. You got to get some new material over there. As for calling me names or being put off by anything I say, take a number who cares.
By the way, the odds of that kind of suit getting to the courts is just laughable. Geez I can't believe I read that on here. Is that a threat? Funny how that is the first thing people think about when they don't like something that happened. Be glad they have an event like this and enjoy it. This is not the first kid that felt like he got overlooked and it won't be the last.
1-I think the selection committee did an excellent job.
2-It sounds like some in Missouri are getting there excuses ready for a defeat.