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Posted By: Max Derby Invitational - 12/24/02 03:58 PM
What teams will be at the Derby Invitational this year?
Posted By: ExKansaswrestler Re: Derby Invitational - 12/31/02 05:57 PM
blue valley northwest
Posted By: vikes Re: Derby Invitational - 12/31/02 10:26 PM
Derby
Ark City
Bishop Carrol
Bishop Lynch, Dallas, Texas
Blackwell, Oklahoma
Blue Valley Northwest
Emporia
Goddard
Lawrence Free State
Olathe North
Olathe South
Omaha Burke, Nebraska
Pittsburg
Rosehill
Shawnee Hights
Shawnee Mission West
Tonkawa, Oklahoma
Wellington
Wichita Hights
Winfield
Posted By: BigPin22 Re: Derby Invitational - 12/31/02 11:05 PM
Sounds like a tough one, I thought Wichita West was also there?

anyone have individual predictions?
Posted By: Coachjt Re: Derby Invitational - 01/01/03 12:12 AM
Add Derby, to the Tournaments that Wichita West has been banned from.

Is Charles Knox wrestling this year?
Posted By: BigPin22 Re: Derby Invitational - 01/01/03 06:34 AM
I heard that he quit but that is just hearsay, I would hate to see that be true because he is very talented and spent a lot of time in the practice room.
Posted By: StallingSob4 Re: Derby Invitational - 01/01/03 04:11 PM
emporia is not going to derby they dropped the tournament last year
Posted By: rocknraider Re: Derby Invitational - 01/02/03 01:34 AM
are u serious that wichita west got banned? what did they do to get banned?
Posted By: Coachjt Re: Derby Invitational - 01/02/03 01:55 AM
You must not be around Wichita West Wrestling much?
I know of eight Tournaments they are not allowed in.

How about 135?

#1 5A - Wilderman
#3 5A - Chastain
#1 6A - Craig
#2 6A - Nelson
#3 6A - Hill
Posted By: wizard_03 Re: Derby Invitational - 01/02/03 07:36 AM
Who do u think would win at 135.
Posted By: nclayton Re: Derby Invitational - 01/02/03 10:35 AM
Hill
Posted By: Togam123 Re: Derby Invitational - 01/02/03 04:30 PM
Craig and Nelson will not be there, as Hutch and Emporia do not go to the tournament
Posted By: BigPin22 Re: Derby Invitational - 01/02/03 07:29 PM
1st-Wilderman
2nd-Hill
3rd-Chastain
Posted By: ybsmall Re: Derby Invitational - 01/02/03 08:13 PM
I must admit I'm not familure with Wichita wrestling. Why is it that this school is banned from some tournaments?
Posted By: cityleague Re: Derby Invitational - 01/03/03 03:26 AM
Wichita West has been kicked out of three tournaments that I know about (Derby, Rose Hill, and Putnam City North.) It has been two years since they have been kicked out of one. Where does JT come up with eight? JT if you have any credibility, which I say you don't, list the tournaments that they have been kicked out of. One thing that is clear is whenever JT has the chance to throw in a negative word about the West program, he does. I think you would have a hard time finding anyone who could say anything bad about the West team last year or this year. So, JT how long are you going to keep badmouthing them? Most of the kids and coaches wrestling for them now had nothing to do with any of the problems they had before, so maybe its time for you to keep your dislike to yourself. It's obvious that anything West does will never satisfy you.
Posted By: Coachjt Re: Derby Invitational - 01/03/03 04:31 PM
I never said that the current kids or Coaching staff did anything wrong.
The question was asked why were they kicked out. If you had been around the Wichita West Wrestling team before the last two years you wouldn't have to ask that. The only other time I commented on Wichita West was to answer a question on whether the Wrestling Coach had moved to W. Northwest? I told them no he went somewhere else, it was the Football Coach that went to W. Northwest.

I don't know Coach Watkins but I would guess he got tired of the hassle and needed a new start. I do know Coach Dryden, although I won't see him until State, I would bet they are concentrating on wrestling more now instead of the us against everyone attitude.

I never said they were kicked out of eight Tournaments, I said “I know of eight Tournaments they are not allowed in.” Hopefully this will change, it won't be overnight but it can be done. This is kind of like College were the kids and Coaches of today get penalized for wrong doings of the past.
Posted By: ksfan Re: Derby Invitational - 01/03/03 09:54 PM
So what did they do? Just general bad behavior and poor sportsmanship or was it more serious.
Posted By: ksfan Re: Derby Invitational - 01/03/03 09:59 PM
So what will be the toughest weights and who will make those weights tough.
Posted By: Coachjt Re: Derby Invitational - 01/04/03 02:12 AM
It was just poor sportsmanship from SOME of the kids, SOME of the Coaches and A LOT of their fans. Some Athletic Directors and/or Principals felt it was getting out of hand. Hopefully everything is OK now; they have a lot of good wrestlers still in the program.

As for which weight is tough who knows?

With all the changes this year I don’t know for sure who will be there. I used to love this Tournament because it was so tough but now I don’t know?

In our first Tournament this year we had five fewer teams & in our second one there were five new ones. With a lot of budget cuts going on I’m not sure who will be at Derby or at Rose Hill for that matter. I’m going to check and see who is going to Rose Hill later this year, if anyone knows for sure who will be at Derby could you let us know? Thanks.
Posted By: Togam123 Re: Derby Invitational - 01/07/03 12:30 AM
Anyone know what weigh Sielert from OS will be at, 125 or 119
Posted By: rocknraider Re: Derby Invitational - 01/07/03 03:09 AM
im pretty sure that sielert is going 119 and elstrode is going 112. anyone know where dedrick (orginal 112) would go, cause im pretty sure he cant make 103...
Posted By: Coach D Re: Derby Invitational - 01/07/03 12:22 PM
Sielert will be at 125, Elsrode at 119 and Dedrick at 112.
Posted By: wrstlingfan21 Re: Derby Invitational - 01/08/03 05:35 PM
i know 112 at this tournament will be pretty tough,

heinecker-derby
harding-winfield
wolfe-blackwell
banta-ark city
edgmon-goddard
mcdonald-carroll

and i'm sure theres some other tough wrestler's at this weight that im not thinking of right off the top of my head
Posted By: Togam123 Re: Derby Invitational - 01/08/03 10:59 PM
edgmon from Goddard is back at 112, are you sure??
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