I am just wondering who people think will be placers at state in this upcoming season. I KNOW its way too early and everything can change, but I just wanted to give people a place to throw out names of thier favorite wrestlers at thier favorite weights. Even people that are considered sleepers at best. I know I wanna get to a certain wieght and do well, but that might not happen, so I better get some names of people in the weights above me to look out for!
Some names that come to my mind from the west are Cook from Goodland, Riner, Prater, and Farliegh from Pratt, Miller and the Drieling brothers from Scott City....
Team Race:
1. Goodland
2. Andale
3. Abilene
4. Scott City
1.Clay Center
2.Andale
3.Abilene
Clay Center lost Danny Grater and Jacob Maars, both score a good deal of state points, Goodland lost Dexter Deeds but returns like 7 or 8 qualifiers I think. I would think they would be the favorite
Originally posted by Kit Harris:
4A Returning Information 2005-06
Rank-Team - RetPoints - RetQual - RetPlacers
1 - Clay Center - 81.5 - 6 - 4
2 - Goodland - 73 - 8 - 4
3 - Andale - 68.5 - 5 - 4
4 - Abilene - 63 - 4 - 3
5 - Holton - 50 - 2 - 2
6 - Augusta - 49 - 5 - 3
7 - Colby - 48.5 - 5 - 2
8 - Scott City - 39 - 5 - 2
9 - Santa Fe Trail - 29 - 5 - 2
10 - Columbus - 28.5 - 4 - 2
11 - DeSoto - 28.5 - 1 - 1
12 - Mulvane - 26 - 1 - 1
13 - Concordia - 25.5 - 4 - 1
14 - Prairie View - 24 - 2 - 1
15t - El Dorado - 19 - 2 - 1
15t - Andover Central - 19 - 2 - 1
17 - Chapman - 18.5 - 2 - 1
18 - Ulysses - 17.5 - 4 - 1
19 - Baldwin - 16 - 3 - 1
20t - Wamego - 14 - 1 - 1
20t - Bonner Springs - 14 - 1 - 1
There may be some errors.
Anybody have longshot indiviuals that they think could come out of regionals and place at state? I also forgot to mention Heckel from Ulysess and the 215 from Goodland, Starr I think is his name as other good wrestlers from the west. Anybody know of Colbys returners?
I think Bronco Wrestler just proved himself wrong on consecutive posts. That has to be a record.
Ulysses may be better than what the prediction shows. I think that their coach had a pretty bad wreck last year, and they didn't do as good as they would have. I think he went to Garden and they have a new coach, but I'm not sure. I will try to find out. Heckel looks good to place higher though, and I think his brother will wrestle this year. He was pretty good in kids.
Originally posted by billy_mcjackson_ripjc:
I think Bronco Wrestler just proved himself wrong on consecutive posts. That has to be a record.
These kind of actions have come to be expected from Bronco Wrestler, so you can't be too terribly surprised.
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
Originally posted by billy_mcjackson_ripjc:
I think Bronco Wrestler just proved himself wrong on consecutive posts. That has to be a record.
These kind of actions have come to be expected from Bronco Wrestler, so you can't be too terribly surprised. I resent that remark thank you.... if I'm not mistaken you're post total has magically jumped up as well Mr. Chenoweth. Is there something you aren't telling? A possible way to pad your post total without anyone knowing?
Yes, we here in Ulysses did lose our coach and now have a new one. Yes, both of the Heckels will be wrestling. And I agree with the comment that we will be better than the prediction shows. Looks like we'll have a pretty full line-up, especially in the upper-middle weights.
Originally posted by grizzly bear:
Yes, we here in Ulysses did lose our coach and now have a new one. Yes, both of the Heckels will be wrestling. And I agree with the comment that we will be better than the prediction shows. Looks like we'll have a pretty full line-up, especially in the upper-middle weights.
Who is the new coach?
Curtis Chenowith, Billy_mcjackson and Bronco Wrestler....
Go to your room and stay there until you learn to get along!!!!! Quite picking on each other. It's boring and immature. You can come out of your rooms when you start acting better. I don't care who started it and I don't care who said what. Just stop okay. You are giving me a headache.
I believe Lansing is going back to 4A from what I have heard. If that is correct they would have to be considered in the mix.
24/7
Hey, you're not my mom. Stop spending time on the internet and go cook and clean, like women should be doing.
yea what he said...
FYI Chenoweth & I are pretty good friends, and Billy just adds to the humor on the boards.
Alex
I thought she was your mom Alex, I am so confused now.
Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
Originally posted by billy_mcjackson_ripjc:
I think Bronco Wrestler just proved himself wrong on consecutive posts. That has to be a record.
These kind of actions have come to be expected from Bronco Wrestler, so you can't be too terribly surprised. I resent that remark thank you.... if I'm not mistaken you're post total has magically jumped up as well Mr. Chenoweth. Is there something you aren't telling? A possible way to pad your post total without anyone knowing? Where did the padding the post total come in at? Doesn't matter though, all of my posts are legitamite. Even if a lot of them were in response to stuff you said.
What's the toughest tournament in Kansas.
Originally posted by CaptainAmerica:
What's the toughest tournament in Kansas.
Toughest Tournament Topic
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
quote:
Originally posted by billy_mcjackson_ripjc:
I think Bronco Wrestler just proved himself wrong on consecutive posts. That has to be a record.
These kind of actions have come to be expected from Bronco Wrestler, so you can't be too terribly surprised. I resent that remark thank you.... if I'm not mistaken you're post total has magically jumped up as well Mr. Chenoweth. Is there something you aren't telling? A possible way to pad your post total without anyone knowing? Where did the padding the post total come in at? Doesn't matter though, all of my posts are legitamite. Even if a lot of them were in response to stuff you said.
Why must you echo everything I say? Stop It!
Originally posted by sportsfan02:
Originally posted by grizzly bear:
Yes, we here in Ulysses did lose our coach and now have a new one. Yes, both of the Heckels will be wrestling. And I agree with the comment that we will be better than the prediction shows. Looks like we'll have a pretty full line-up, especially in the upper-middle weights.
Who is the new coach? I IM'd a friend there and it's a guy that coached there before. Coach Cue or something like that. I guess they won state there back in the 90's and they had some pretty good guys. It sounds like they are pretty pumped about the season, and are probably gonna have a lot more guys out, maybe. I guess all of the coaches are new, even at the junior high.
Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
Originally posted by CaptainAmerica:
What's the toughest tournament in Kansas.
Toughest Tournament Topic Thanks
I had heard that preto was possibly goin to Holcomb? I had seen in the Garden paper he took a job at Garden City but he could possibly be a rule 10 coach at Holcomb? This is holcombs first year for a program though but I don't know of a better coach to start with. Preto seemed to do well with the talent he had and even had a couple state champ wrestlers himself. Also, Captain, what weight will the younger Heckel be at? and can you name some of the upperweight wrestlers you think should be tough?
Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
quote:
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
quote:
Originally posted by billy_mcjackson_ripjc:
I think Bronco Wrestler just proved himself wrong on consecutive posts. That has to be a record.
These kind of actions have come to be expected from Bronco Wrestler, so you can't be too terribly surprised. I resent that remark thank you.... if I'm not mistaken you're post total has magically jumped up as well Mr. Chenoweth. Is there something you aren't telling? A possible way to pad your post total without anyone knowing? Where did the padding the post total come in at? Doesn't matter though, all of my posts are legitamite. Even if a lot of them were in response to stuff you said.
Why must you echo everything I say? Stop It!
I don't mean to make it echo. I just like seeing a lot of quotation marks. It's fun to look at.
Originally posted by power54:
I had heard that preto was possibly goin to Holcomb? I had seen in the Garden paper he took a job at Garden City but he could possibly be a rule 10 coach at Holcomb? This is holcombs first year for a program though but I don't know of a better coach to start with. Preto seemed to do well with the talent he had and even had a couple state champ wrestlers himself. Also, Captain, what weight will the younger Heckel be at? and can you name some of the upperweight wrestlers you think should be tough?
I believe Holcomb had wrestling back in the 1980's. So it's not the first time they've ever had it, but when did they drop it?
I don't have a clue. I talked to some guys from there after a football game and they didn't expect a good year but that is understandable. I'm not too old but I have followed wrestling for a while and I don't remeber them ever having wrestling but its possible. I beleive the SW Grapplers kids team is located in Holcomb. So, they could have a really good base for future wrestlers.
Yeah, the only reason I knew they used to have a team is because my old high school coach started his kansas coaching career out there.
I have a guy from Ulysses in my dorm room, and he said that Holcomb is starting a team back up. So I think the rumor is actually truth.
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
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Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
quote:
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
quote:
Originally posted by billy_mcjackson_ripjc:
I think Bronco Wrestler just proved himself wrong on consecutive posts. That has to be a record.
These kind of actions have come to be expected from Bronco Wrestler, so you can't be too terribly surprised. I resent that remark thank you.... if I'm not mistaken you're post total has magically jumped up as well Mr. Chenoweth. Is there something you aren't telling? A possible way to pad your post total without anyone knowing? Where did the padding the post total come in at? Doesn't matter though, all of my posts are legitamite. Even if a lot of them were in response to stuff you said.
Why must you echo everything I say? Stop It!
I don't mean to make it echo. I just like seeing a lot of quotation marks. It's fun to look at.
this is quite impressive isn't it?
Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
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Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
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Originally posted by Bronco Wrestler:
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Originally posted by Curtis Chenoweth:
quote:
Originally posted by billy_mcjackson_ripjc:
I think Bronco Wrestler just proved himself wrong on consecutive posts. That has to be a record.
These kind of actions have come to be expected from Bronco Wrestler, so you can't be too terribly surprised. I resent that remark thank you.... if I'm not mistaken you're post total has magically jumped up as well Mr. Chenoweth. Is there something you aren't telling? A possible way to pad your post total without anyone knowing? Where did the padding the post total come in at? Doesn't matter though, all of my posts are legitamite. Even if a lot of them were in response to stuff you said.
Why must you echo everything I say? Stop It!
I don't mean to make it echo. I just like seeing a lot of quotation marks. It's fun to look at.
this is quite impressive isn't it?
I wonder how long we could do this.
Originally posted by power54:
I had heard that preto was possibly goin to Holcomb? I had seen in the Garden paper he took a job at Garden City but he could possibly be a rule 10 coach at Holcomb? This is holcombs first year for a program though but I don't know of a better coach to start with. Preto seemed to do well with the talent he had and even had a couple state champ wrestlers himself. Also, Captain, what weight will the younger Heckel be at? and can you name some of the upperweight wrestlers you think should be tough?
The younger Heckel is bigger then his brother. Maybe 160, or even 171.
Coach Prieto is now an assistant at Garden City. Since he had been driving from Holcomb to Ulysses for seven years or so, it makes perfect sense to want to cut those miles back, especially after his accident on an icy road. He did an outstanding job in Ulysses, and was able to pull off a few good state tournaments. There have been some good kids come through under his tenure,,,Kory Lira, Tony Lewis, Joey Ortiz, Levi Eddie, Ryan Seger.....there are probably a few more. I am sure that Garden City is getting a good coach and a good teacher. From what I have heard, Joe Arrellano will be the head coach at Holcomb as a Rule 10, which means that he is non-certified staff. Holcomb dropped wrestling back in the early 90's. My best guess would be 93 or 94. It is my understanding that Prieto was offered the job, but the teaching position that was offered was either after Gardens offer or not what he was looking for. As far as what Ulysses will have to offer, my best guess is that they will move back into the top 10.
So anybody have any picks from the eastern part of the state and wichita area? Also, what will the new wrestling regionals be especailly in the west when you throw TMP into the mix? I think that the western regionals are goin to be tough, but might get easier if Andale isn't included.
Goodland is going to be tough, last year they were tough and young. this year they won't be young. I didn't realize they had 8 ret state qualifiers...wow. Goodluck Cowboys
not that any one gives a rat's butt, that was me not power54 on the last post, I could explain what happened but I know no one cares, except I did not want power54 to trip out.
Rexpadre...what are you guys going to have in wrestling this year? Your football team is doing well, and that usually carries over into other sports. It at least proves that you have athletes. It will be a huge game this Friday.
Strong weights include 145-Brian Hauser, did not qualify but a good wrestler, 135-140 AJ Heckel, 152-160 Derek Heckel, 171-James Gerstberger(studly stallion), Vincent Orosco somewhere, 215-Saul Landeros, 119or125 Trey Adams, Travis Morphis might fill heavyweight. We do return some power and look to a top 10 finish.
1.Goodland
2.Andale
3.Clay Center
4.Scott City