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Posted By: gutwrench1 best 6A team? - 02/01/05 03:49 PM
Who are you picking?
STA
Goddard
Hutch
Manhattan
Maize
Posted By: wrestler17105 Re: best 6A team? - 02/01/05 03:54 PM
Manhatttan. My team wrestled them in the Ottawa inv. and they creamed everyone there by at least 30 points each. they have a very good and stacked team. i don't think that anyone can hang with them very much.
Posted By: Prant Garker Re: best 6A team? - 02/01/05 08:38 PM
As much as it pains me to say it, I would give the edge to St. Thomas Aquinas. I believe their big guns (Ceil Nisper, Med Jamie, some wee guys) will score them a lot of points, and they'll be able to get some points out of average wrestlers who get high seeds from their weaker regional. I'm also worried about Hutch, who placed well at Newton. (And us Hat Town folk have been bitten by Hutch before, so I'm a little paranoid.)

However, I do think a two-peat would be sweeeet.
Posted By: Marbla Re: best 6A team? - 02/01/05 10:56 PM
Hutch will do well.
Posted By: gutwrench1 Re: best 6A team? - 02/02/05 02:40 PM
I'm not ruling out Manhattan who beat Turner in a tournament this season.
Posted By: Cowboys Re: best 6A team? - 02/07/05 02:52 PM
i whould have to say goddard by a hair because STA is good but goddard and STA are both even match teams
Posted By: wrestlerett05 Re: best 6A team? - 02/07/05 03:09 PM
I heard Goodard has had some trouble with injuries. I don't know how healthy the kids will be going back into regionals.Does anyone know how Edgmond is doing? My pick is Manhattan.
Posted By: brentvoth Re: best 6A team? - 02/07/05 10:27 PM
i think it will come down to manhatten and STA...i probably have to pick STA, though i hope manhatten beats them
Posted By: boach_clack Re: best 6A team? - 02/07/05 10:46 PM
i think hutch and goddard may surprise people and be right there at the top with everyone. Its gonna be real close.
Posted By: Cowboys Re: best 6A team? - 02/08/05 02:02 PM
When i was reading the paper it said Edgmond will be back in time for regionals and Goddard should be healthy by regionals
Posted By: blitzkrieg Re: best 6A team? - 02/08/05 04:04 PM
I think it's too hard to determine. I think you've got 4, maybe even 5 schools who will be duking it out at the state tourney. Obviously, STA, Hutch, Manhatten, and Goddard are the favorites. I think as of now STA has to be the favorite. They actually wrestled Hutch and Goddard at Blue Valley Northwest this year and won handily

Team scores: 1. St. Thomas Aqunias 209.5; 2. Turner 176.5; 3. Blue Valley 153.5; 4. Goddard 146.5; 5. Maize 139.5; 6. Hutchinson 139;

As a further comparison:

103: 2nd Micha Ankenman, HUT
3rd Quintyn Bolay, GRD
4th Bo Noles STA

112 4th Phillip Henes, STA
5th Jacob Hulsey HUT

119 4th Skyler Scott, STA
6th Tommy Edgmon GRD (lost this match due to injury)

125 3rd RJ Nill, STA
4th Russell Freeman GRD
5th Tim Sayers, HUT

130 3rd Mark Millstead, STA

135 2nd Brad Traina, GRD
5th Scott Markey STA

140 1st Phil Craig, HUT
4th Andy Hurla, STA

145 1st Romero Cotton, HUT
5th B Bonewell GRD

152 3rd Joe Ibarra, STA
- Chris Simpson placed 4th - not sure from where

160 6th EJ Walter STA

171 1st Chadd Posch, GRD
- Doesn't have 5th and 6th

189 1st Neil Cisper STA

215 2nd Mike Hammer STA

275 None

Thought this was interesting.
Posted By: boach_clack Re: best 6A team? - 02/08/05 06:33 PM
Looks like you got too many points on your board up there. STA scores 209 and everyone else scores 150...thats strange...its usually about 150-175 that wins it. And apparently the HAt gets no love. Interesting......
Posted By: blitzkrieg Re: best 6A team? - 02/08/05 06:52 PM
This wasn't a prediction of the state tourney, as you may have missed, Turner was in this list. And I'm fully aware that Turner is 5A. This was the results of the BVNW tourney where Hutch and Goddard, along with STA competed. It may or may not be a good indication as to where they may fall in the State tournament. If anything, it adds to the debate.
Posted By: parkwayred Re: best 6A team? - 02/08/05 07:30 PM
Boach, they just don’t seem to understand the power of the sweater vest. That’s worth at least 20 style points. And 1 for appreciation.
Posted By: Cowboys Re: best 6A team? - 02/09/05 02:28 PM
yeah but goddard also went into the tourny with out Chase Mosses and that could of got them some more points to put them in 3rd or could of made it closer to 2nd place
Posted By: vikes Re: best 6A team? - 02/09/05 04:35 PM
yes, but what team that doesn't cheat will win state?


had to do it with all the talk about STA
Posted By: Earrrrl Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 12:18 AM
haha, isnt there another thread if you want to continue that discussion
Posted By: Prant Garker Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 04:29 AM
I'm going to switch my prediction. I'm saying Hutch. They just make me extremely nervous. (For good reason.)
Posted By: parkwayred Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 11:50 AM
Prant, Do me a favor! Just Say No to the Canadian Drugs. Hutch is going to be OK but they have way to many holes to fill. They have a good 103,119,125 an excellent 140 and 145. The 171 will fair well also. The 145 has been the surprise of the year but has a very tough regional with a lot of state experience. But 5 to 8 guys will be a long shot to win a State title. STA is the one to beat they are deep and will score a lot on the backside.
Posted By: Prant Garker Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 01:19 PM
Red, you of all people should know that Hutch is always lurking. They wrestled like ma-ohns and won two state titles when there were better teams, and I will be eternally pee-pantsed whenever they're around.

Go Hat Town.
Posted By: Marbla Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by parkwayred:
Prant, Do me a favor! Just Say No to the Canadian Drugs. Hutch is going to be OK but they have way to many holes to fill. They have a good 103,119,125 an excellent 140 and 145. The 171 will fair well also. The 145 has been the surprise of the year but has a very tough regional with a lot of state experience. But 5 to 8 guys will be a long shot to win a State title. STA is the one to beat they are deep and will score a lot on the backside.
In '03, hutch won state with eight.
Posted By: parkwayred Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 05:26 PM
But consider the eight they won with? how many were in the finals... And how many back side points did they get. They had four state champs, tell me who is going to be the state champs from hucth this year? one maybe two.
Posted By: fris kitzgerald Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 07:34 PM
manhattan did they not win it with no state champs last year?????? they had 8 places and no state champs its all on the backside my friends
Posted By: Prant Garker Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 08:38 PM
Fris, you're too young and stupid to remember the travesty that was 2002. Ay dios mio. That day the The Streak was to be broken, only to have little Prant's heart crushed after a 9 foot dinosaur who had bananas for fingers and couldn't bend his knees defeated an expected 3x champ at the fatty weights. Down goes Frazier. Prant and Co. are destroyed.

But hey--we beat them in football.
Posted By: LancerM Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 09:18 PM
Wow, I didn't realize that Hemmerling winning cost Manhattan the state title. That's terrible.
Posted By: parkwayred Re: best 6A team? - 02/10/05 09:20 PM
Fris, you are missing my point how many points were scored by the non-placers? you being one of them... you scored points for the title. It took all 12 guys to do it on the backside with two in the finals. It would be tough to win it with five to eight guys and not put them all in the finals. Ask Goddard how tough it is to win without a lot of backside points. I understand where Prant is coming from! The moons were aligned just right the year in question. One stinking point!!!!!
Posted By: Prant Garker Re: best 6A team? - 02/11/05 12:13 AM
Yeah, MancerL. I believe they had an upset victory in the middle weights, but no one was really worried about it because Bananafingers McCantbendhisknees was kind of a no-name to us. (In fact, he had been teched by our 171 a year or two before.) And of course---he was wrestling 2x state champ and eventual nationals bronze medal winner Josh Carrol. No big deal. Title's locked up.

Until, like Red says, the crappy moons aligned to take a grumpy all over Hat Town's state title. Big ups to McCantbendhisknees. He wrestled like the ma-ohniest of ma-ohns. But still, it broke Prant's little heart.

Oh, and Josh Carrol beat us in the state title game in football that year. His stellar play on the D line rendered our offense virtually non-existent. So it's not like he's responsible for us losing TWO state titles or anything.

I'm not bitter.

(If any of you can offer counseling, I think I need it.)
Posted By: Marbla Re: best 6A team? - 02/11/05 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Prant Garker:
Yeah, MancerL. I believe they had an upset victory in the middle weights, but no one was really worried about it because Bananafingers McCantbendhisknees was kind of a no-name to us. (In fact, he had been teched by our 171 a year or two before.) And of course---he was wrestling 2x state champ and eventual nationals bronze medal winner Josh Carrol. No big deal. Title's locked up.

Until, like Red says, the crappy moons aligned to take a grumpy all over Hat Town's state title. Big ups to McCantbendhisknees. He wrestled like the ma-ohniest of ma-ohns. But still, it broke Prant's little heart.

Oh, and Josh Carrol beat us in the state title game in football that year. His stellar play on the D line rendered our offense virtually non-existent. So it's not like he's responsible for us losing TWO state titles or anything.

I'm not bitter.

(If any of you can offer counseling, I think I need it.)
Munoz also won the title at 130. One thing you're forgetting, though, is that Garcia was upset in the semifinals. If he would have won that match, and gone on to beat baldridge just as he did a week before, it wouldn't have even come to hemmerling's match.
Posted By: Nedly Re: best 6A team? - 02/11/05 11:57 PM
STA looks solid top to bottom, saw them at the SMS Tourney.

I know the Manhattan line up very well.

There are a lot of good teams in 6A.

We all know that anything can happen at the State Tournament. I can't wait, it will be a great tournament.

Good luck to the Manhattan wrestlers the next 3 weeks.

Ned
Posted By: Prant Garker Re: best 6A team? - 02/12/05 02:54 AM
Ned!!! It's Ped Nrice!!!

Hello to you, my friend. Hat Town misses you AND your fruit pants. We should form an Out Of Town Hat Town Fans With Funny Pants club.
Posted By: CradlemUp06 Re: best 6A team? - 02/12/05 04:23 AM
Derby will be a team to watch for at state seeing how we are league champs with Hutch and Maize
Posted By: Nedly Re: best 6A team? - 02/12/05 05:06 PM
Prant it is Ped.

Yes my wardrobe is as colorful as fourm posts, and I have added many new fruits and vegetables to my collection.

Hello to everyone in Hat Town.
Posted By: P. Pitbull's Old Dog Re: best 6A team? - 02/14/05 01:19 PM
How many of those hat town boys you think will bring home medals? 7 or more and they just might win another title!

STA I could see getting 7-9 but I don't think as high of placing then Man.
Posted By: P. Pitbull's Old Dog Re: best 6A team? - 02/14/05 01:21 PM
STA will probably take 11-12 to state, weak regional, we're in it too.
Posted By: Marbla Re: best 6A team? - 02/14/05 04:34 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by bigosteve:
Quote:
Originally posted by CradlemUp06:
Derby will be a team to watch for at state seeing how we are league champs with Hutch and Maize
You have to be kidding? To finish in the top 8 for them would be great. I say they hit 6th at best this year.
I agree....seeing as I was told by multiple people that Hutchinson and Maize tied for AVCTL champs honors.
Posted By: DWrestler06 Re: best 6A team? - 02/15/05 01:10 AM
Maize Hutch and Derby all tied Derby beat Hutch Hutch beat Maize and Maize beat Derby all really close

bigosteve i don't know if you are but if you are talkin about are bigger wrestlers 275 Ryan Roe ia ranked in the state i don't know what 215 Jacob McFarlind is #1 and 189 Germey Priewit in not sure on ranking ether because can't check
Posted By: DWrestler06 Re: best 6A team? - 02/15/05 01:11 AM
Im not saying Derby will win it but i think will hold a respectful placing
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