Thursday night Iowa extended its streak of unbeaten duals to 83 by beating UNI. A win against Indiana on 1/6/12 would tie the all time consecutive dual win streak at 84 held by Oklahoma State. I don't know if the boys in Stillwater and IC were doing a little math when they scheduled this one but it looks like it will be a whole lot more than just #1 vs. #2. Don't be surprised to if this one breaks the all time attendance record.
I'm sure Brands and Smith are very aware of what is on the line. This will be a historical dual meet. Plan on Iowa going ahead of OSU.
This match will be decided by bonus points. I think OSU has the upper hand here with 133 and HWT having an opportunity for falls.
I really do not see easy pin opportunities at those weights 133 & HWT.
133
1
Jordan Oliver
Oklahoma State
Junior
2
Tony Ramos
Iowa
Sophomore
HWT
2
Alan Gelogaev
Oklahoma State
Senior
9
Bobby Telford
Iowa
Freshman
Iowa 20 OSU 16
125 McDonough over Morrison - Pin
133 Ramos over Oliver - Dec
141 Marion over Kindig - Dec
149 Parks over Ballewg - Dec
157 St John over White - Maj. Dec
165 Baily over Evans - Dec
174 Lofthouse over McNiel - Maj. Dec
184 Perry over Wagner hh- Maj. Dec
197 Byers over Gambrell - Dec
285 Gelogaev over Telford - Dec
McDonough over Morrison= MD
Oliver over Ramos = TF / Fall
Marion over Kindig = M Dec
Parks over Ballewg = Dec
St. John (if healthy) over White = m dec
Baily over Evans = dec
Lofthouse over McNiel = m dec
Perry over Wagner = TF
Byers over Gambrell = MD
Z pins Telford
I think Perry is going to be at 174 from now on.
McDonough over Morrison= MD
Oliver over Ramos = TF / Fall
Marion over Kindig = M Dec
Parks over Ballewg = Dec
St. John (if healthy) over White = m dec
Baily over Evans = dec
Lofthouse over McNiel = m dec
Perry over Wagner = TF
Byers over Gambrell = MD
Z pins Telford
No way will the Russian pin Telford,
He must not have seen Telford wrestle yet.
I have. I have also seen Z go at it. If you guys think for one second that I think he is going to go out and pin him in the first 10 sec you are wrong. If OSU is to have any falls in this match 133 and HWT are where they are going to come, more than likely. Oliver has pinned a couple of guys this year and is on a different level than anyone at 133...including Ramos....Z's style puts him in positions to pin people. You guys are acting like I am saying Morrison is going to pin McD. Is it a stretch that I think Z will pin Telford???? Maybe, but not that far of one.
Will this be televised on the Big X network?
This is going to be a tight dual. I think Perry moving to 74 changes the dual results though.
125-McDonough may or may not pin Morrison, but he'll win. 133-Since NWCA Oliver is back to his old self and Ramos was a little off at Midlands. 141-Don't think Kindig can beat Marion most days. 149-Parks should destroy Ballweg but it will end like 4-2 or so. 157-St. John will probably handle White. This match will be a chance for the Hawks to get bonus. 165- Talented freshman wins over Bailey. 174- Perry wins easily over Lofthouse. 184-McNeil and Wagner...big swing match. I give the edge to McNeil but Wagner is salty. 197-I see Byers coming out on top here too. HWT...Yes, this could very well end in pin! Telford is a very good young heavy but Z is a beast and healthy (as far as I know). I think it will be a entertaining match and Z will come out on top by a handful of points.
125 McDonough over Morrison - Pin 6-0
133 Oliver over Ramos - Major 6-4
141 Marion over Kindig - Dec 9-4
149 Parks over Ballweg - Dec 9-7
157 St John over White - Dec 12-7
165 Evens over Bailey - Dec 15-7
174 Perry over Lofthouse - Dec 15-10
184 McNeil over Wagner - Dec 15-13
197 Byers over Gambrell - Dec 15-16
285 Gelogaev over Telford - Dec 15-19
I think you could have 100 different people look at this match and come up with 100 different opinions. I think the only opinion everyone can share is this will be a great match. I am getting pretty pumped.
Go Pokes!
Coach Craig
I hear out of Iowa that St. John is a no go...still not healthy. Probably Moore filling in there.
I also haven't heard if Rosholt takes the spot over Byers or not. He beat him 6-0 in Vegas.
By Jason Bryant USA Wrestling
01/05/2012
When the Oklahoma State Cowboys step on the mat inside Carver-Hawkeye Arena on Saturday night to take on the top-ranked Iowa Hawkeyes, history will stand in the balance.
It’s No. 1 vs. No. 2, but a little bit more is on the line.
For Iowa, which will likely extend its unbeaten streak to 84 matches with a Friday victory over Indiana, it’s a chance at setting a benchmark of dominance. The last time Iowa suffered a loss was against Oklahoma State, nearly 1,100 days ago.
Iowa’s coming off a sound Midlands performance as the program won its 22nd championship. Oklahoma State is fresh off wins over Wyoming and Boise State after starting the Winter Break with an expected championship at the Reno Tournament of Champions.
Iowa head coach Tom Brands wasn’t entirely pleased with the Hawkeyes 1-4 record in the finals at the Midlands.
“When you don’t win with exclamation points, it shows vulnerability,” Brands told Andy Hamilton of the Des Moines Register on December 30. “Then it shows up in the next round or it could show up any time because you’re leaving things to chance.”
Don’t expect a repeat of last year’s anticlimactic 15-15 tie. The NCAA rules were tweaked in the offseason to send all matches, whether it be in an advancement tournament or not, to be decided by criteria should they end in a tie.
Oklahoma State would have stopped the streak last year via the third criteria, total match points (47-42) if the current rules were in place.
Weight-By-Weight Breakdown
125 pounds
Matt McDonough of Iowa topped Jon Morrison 7-3 last season and with the way McDonough has performed since his shocking loss to Illinois’ Jesse Delgado, there’s no reason why he can’t at least eye the major decision. McDonough’s won seven in a row and over half of his matches have ended with him picking up a fall. Morrison is 11-2 and has reeled off seven wins in a row. Despite the rankings, McDonough will be a heavy favorite.
133 pounds
The hype surrounding a Jordan Oliver-Tony Ramos matchup might have waned in the wake of Ramos’ Midlands loss to Virginia Tech’s Devin Carter, but the matchup is still most intriguing to many who don’t follow Iowa or Oklahoma State. Save his unofficial win over B.J. Futrell at the All-Star Classic, no one’s been more dominant than Oliver this season. He’s stepped on the mat 10 times and registered 10 falls. Ramos is 15-1 this season with 11 bonus victories. Last year, Iowa elected to send out Tyler Clark against Oliver and the matchup paid off, as Oliver was unable to register bonus points. Ramos has a dominant victory over Futrell, where Oliver struggled, despite it being the first time Oliver was down to weight. Oliver’s the favorite, but it’s unlikely his pin streak will continue against a wrestler as solid as Ramos.
141 pounds
Iowa’s Montell Marion might have been upset in the finals of the Midlands by Oklahoma’s Kendric Maple, but the Des Moines native was sluggish throughout the championship. But Marion’s probably got a little wiggle room in case he’s not fully 100 percent because Oklahoma State’s Josh Kindig comes in 8-3 but hasn’t beaten a top-ranked opponent all season (with apologies to Josh Strait and Nate Pennesi). Despite the Midlands loss, Marion has to remain the favorite. Bonus might be off the table, but a Marion victory won’t be.
149 pounds
All-American Jamal Parks hasn’t drawn many fans with his seemingly picky wrestling style, but this season has been different. Parks comes in 15-0 with nine of his matches coming via bonus. His top win has been a Reno finals victory over Air Force’s Cole VonOhlen. Iowa will introduce Mike Kelly into the dual-meet lineup for the first time after he made the weight at the Midlands and competed at 149 for the first time. Kelly made the most of his time in the weight, wrestling seven matches and picking up a forfeit along the way. Kelly wrestled eventual Midlands champ Jake Patacsil close, but struggled against Edinboro freshman David Habat. It’s tough to predict Parks scoring bonus points against anyone in Division I, but he’s done it three times this year. Don’t think it will happen in CHA. Parks is a heavy favorite, but along the lines of a 7-2, 7-3 type of win.
157 pounds
Without Derek St. John in the lineup, Iowa has to fill the hole with Nick Moore, a highly-touted recruit out of Iowa City West still looking to make an impact in the Hawkeye program. This could be his opportunity. Moore will take on Oklahoma State’s Albert White, a wrestler just as highly-touted as Moore coming out of high school. White finished a disappointing fifth at Reno, while Moore was seventh at Midlands with a pair of quality wins over Edinboro redshirt John Greisheimer and Princeton’s Daniel Kolodzik. Experience favors White, but the home environment could be the difference maker here. Moore will be called upon to deliver the upset, which could help continue their unbeaten streak.
165 pounds
Along with 157, this weight could be one of the two swing matches within the dual. The Iowa faithful are high on Mike Evans, while Oklahoma State’s Dallas Bailey has been unimpressive, with a 5-6 record against Division I foes this season. Evans best win at the Midlands was against Wisconsin’s Ben Jordan before ultimately finishing seventh. Bailey’s top win was against Appalachian State’s Kyle Blevins in Reno by fall, which is a sign of how dangerous Bailey is with his throws and funky stepovers. Evans is wrestling better right now, but Bailey might implore the Wade Schalles theory of wrestling – “I might not be able to beat you, but I can pin you.”
174 pounds
It’s expected that Chris Perry will be making his way to 174 pounds for the first time. He’ll face Ethen Lofthouse of Iowa, the Midlands runner-up. What to expect? Who knows. Perry here makes him a contender whereas at 184, he’d be stuck in a deeper weight. Lofthouse’s loss to Lee Munster of Northwestern in the Midlands finals was a bit of a surprise, at least on paper. Lofthouse’s win over Mike Benefiel was huge in last year’s dual. But will the first competition at the new weight affect Perry coming off the scale? This one might be too close to call. Had we seen Perry here a week or so prior, it would have given a better indication of what to expect.
184 pounds
Sometimes when you look at a dual meet, it’s the least-accomplished opponents that have the most important task. The expected matchup between Oklahoma State’s Chris McNeil and Iowa’s Vinnie Wagner is just that. McNeil’s a modest 10-4 at 174 pounds, but failed to place at Reno. Wagner might have emerged as the Hawkeye starter after outplacing teammate Jeremy Fahler at the Midlands. Wagner’s a senior who has spent years toiling away in the Iowa room. A win here would not only make the Osage native a hero, it could be a career match depending on the situation. Clear toss-up to many, but Wagner’s a slight favorite at home despite a 4-4 record this season.
197 pounds
A seventh-place finish at the Midlands isn’t what many expected out of Grant Gambrall this season, but up a weight, the Iowa City native has struggled to find a groove. A 6-2 record doesn’t appear to be marginal, but Gambrall will likely be wrestling one of the hottest wrestlers in the nation right now – Oklahoma State’s Blake Rosholt. A winner in Reno over teammate Cayle Byers, Rosholt’s contending for the starting spot with Byers, a transfer from George Mason who started the year ranked in the top five. In this case, the “backup” is the favorite as Gambrall is still small for the weight.
285 pounds
Two trimmer, more athletic heavyweights come into the bout likely not to repeat last year’s sudden victory snoozer between Rosholt and then-Iowa starter Blake Rasing. Alan Gelogaev has returned to the lineup after missing most of last season with a shoulder injury. His attacking, throw-filled arsenal could work well against a green opponent like Bobby Telford. A Midlands runner-up, Telford has emerged as an All-American contender early, but what will the sneaky Russian pull out of his bag of tricks? Gelogaev is an easy favorite.
I didn't see it on the BTN. Does anybody know what network it's going to be on?
Per Jason Bryant's webcast/TV schedule (
http://www.themat.tv/college-wrestling-tvwebcast-schedule/)
Oklahoma State at Iowa (ulive.cbssports.com), AUDIO ONLY – 8 p.m.
Oklahoma State at Iowa (BTN.com), 8 p.m.
STA Thunder wrestlers will be sitting in Carver Hawkeye to see the Cowboys try to break the streak. Jordan Oliver is a BEAST!
STA Thunder wrestlers will be sitting in Carver Hawkeye to see the Cowboys try to break the streak. Jordan Oliver is a BEAST!
Did you mean "STA" Saints or "SJA" Thunder
I hope I can get some sort of coverage back here good luck to SJA Thunder in Iowa.
A few other notes on the Oliver vs Ramos Matchup
Oliver and Ramos are both very talented
Top ranked common opponent recently in the 2011/12 season (within in the last 2 to 3 months)
133: #1 Jordan Oliver, Oklahoma State dec #3 B.J. Futrell, Illinois 8-7
Tony Ramos vs BJ Futrell 13-5
Tony Ramos vs BJ Futrell 6-2
If Oliver pins Ramos it will be the first time Ramos is pinned in either 2010, 2011, 2012,
I do not think Oliver has any pins over top 6 guys in the 2010/11 and 2011/12 season. Just my observation from the results. The pin is very tough at that level and I believe both Oliver and Ramos are hitting their stride pretty well. Should be a great dual.
Tony Ramos (Iowa)
Year: Sophomore (RS)
Weight Class: 133 LBS
Hometown: Carol Stream, Illinois
Accomplishments:
Big Ten: 2011 3rd Place
NCAA: 2011 Qualifier
Career Record: 22-6
2011-12 Results:
1. Tony Ramos Fall Anthony Henley (Wentworth) 2:12 1-0
2. Tony Ramos Tech Denny Kleinschrodt (Missouri) 23-8 2-0
3. Tony Ramos Tech Travis Barroquillo (Indiana Tech) 22-7 3-0
4. Tony Ramos Maj Brandon Wright (Iowa Central CC) 17-6 4-0
5. Tony Ramos Dec Tyler Clark (Iowa) 4-1 5-0
6. Tony Ramos Fall AJ Gassman (Baker) 4:34 6-0
7. Tony Ramos Tech Tigue Snider (Cornell Coll) 26-10 7-0
8. Tony Ramos Maj Brandon Wright (Iowa Central CC) 17-6 8-0
9. Tony Ramos Dec BJ Futrell (Illinois) 13-5 9-0
10. Tony Ramos Fall Shayden Terukina (Iowa State) 4:32 10-0
11. Tony Ramos Maj Ryan Jauch (Northern Iowa) 15-5 11-0
12. Tony Ramos Tech Jose Mendoza (Cal-State Bakersfield) 22-6 12-0
13. Tony Ramos Tech Ryan Fillingame (Adams State) 21-6 13-0
14. Tony Ramos Dec Tyler Clark (Iowa) 5-3 14-0
15. Tony Ramos Dec BJ Futrell (Illinois) 6-2 15-0
16. Devin Carter (Virginia Tech) Dec Tony Ramos 6-4SV 15-1
2010-11 Results:
1. Tony Ramos Maj Tigue Snider (Cornell Coll) 14-5 1-0
2. Tony Ramos Maj Brandon Jones (Iowa State) 14-5 2-0
3. Tony Ramos Tech Josh Harper (Michigan State) 16-1 3-0
4. Tony Ramos Maj Ryan Jauch (Northern Iowa) 12-3 4-0
5. Tony Ramos Maj Kevin Tao (American) 14-3 5-0
6. Tony Ramos Dec Ridge Kiley (Nebraska) 7-4 6-0
7. Tony Ramos Dec Tyler Clark (Iowa) 3-1 7-0
8. BJ Futrell (Illinois) Dec Tony Ramos 9-6 7-1
9. Filip Novachkov (Cal Poly) Dec Tony Ramos 10-7 7-2
10. Tyler Clark (Iowa) Dec Tony Ramos 2-1TB 7-3
11. Tony Ramos Tech John Petrov (SIU-Edwardsville) 20-5 8-3
12. Tony Ramos Dec Ian Paddock (Ohio State) 5-2 9-3
13. Tony Ramos Dec Levi Mele (Northwestern) 9-3 10-3
14. Tony Ramos Dec Andrew Long (Penn State) 4-3 11-3
15. Tony Ramos Fall Matt Ortega (Indiana) 6:26 12-3
16. Tony Ramos Maj Akif Eren (Purdue) 18-6 13-3
17. Tony Ramos Dec Zac Stevens (Michigan) 7-2 14-3
18. Tony Ramos Dec David Thorn (Minnesota) 7-3 15-3
19. Tony Ramos Dec David Thorn (Minnesota) 4-3 16-3
20. Tyler Graff (Wisconsin) Dec Tony Ramos 3-1SV 16-4
21. Tony Ramos MedFFT Ian Paddock (Ohio State) 17-4
22. Tony Ramos Dec BJ Futrell (Illinois) 6-2 18-4
23. Tony Ramos Dec Frank Cagnina (Lehigh) 6-3 19-4
24. Tony Ramos Dec Jordan Keller (Oklahoma) 8-3 20-4
25. Scott Sentes (Central Michigan) Dec Tony Ramos 2-0 20-5
26. Tony Ramos Tech Tyler Small (Kent State) 21-4 21-5
27. Tony Ramos Dec David Thorn (Minnesota) 7-5SV 22-5
28. Lou Ruggirello (Hofstra) Dec Tony Ramos 8-7 22-6
Jordan Oliver (Oklahoma State)
Year: Junior (RS)
Weight Class: 133 LBS
Hometown: Easton, Pennsylvania
Accomplishments:
Big 12: 2011 Champ, 2010 Champ
NCAA: 2011 Champ, 2010 4th Place
Career Record: 61-4
2011-12 Results:
1. Jordan Oliver Fall Shayden Terukina (Iowa State) 2:38 1-0
2. Jordan Oliver Fall David Thorn (Minnesota) 2:16 2-0
3. Jordan Oliver Fall Derek Geiges (Oklahoma) 1:30 3-0
4. Jordan Oliver Fall Cody Tow (Cal Poly) 1:10 4-0
5. Jordan Oliver Fall Justin Durham (Cal-State Bakersfield) 1:06 5-0
6. Jordan Oliver Fall Dylan Hyder (Air Force) :47 6-0
7. Jordan Oliver Fall James Roberts (Oregon State) 1:09 7-0
8. Jordan Oliver Fall Zach Zehner (Wyoming) 1:32 8-0
9. Jordan Oliver Fall Shawn Jones (Boise State) 5:52 9-0
10. Jordan Oliver Fall Zach Zehner (Wyoming) 5:44 10-0
2010-11 Results:
1. Jordan Oliver Fall Michael Walkup (Central Oklahoma) 1:36 1-0
2. Jordan Oliver Fall Dustin Reed (Oklahoma) 2:43 2-0
3. Jordan Oliver Tech Casey Rowell (Central Oklahoma) 18-2 3-0
4. Jordan Oliver Dec Alex Ekstrom (Oklahoma) 7-3 4-0
5. Jordan Oliver Tech Alex Pellicciotti (Bucknell) 22-4 5-0
6. Jordan Oliver Tech Thane Antczak (Minnesota) 22-7 6-0
7. Jordan Oliver Fall Jordan Keller (Oklahoma) 3:51 7-0
8. Jordan Oliver Fall David Prado (Arizona State) 4:39 8-0
9. Jordan Oliver Tech Akif Eren (Purdue) 20-5 9-0
10. Jordan Oliver Maj Devin Carter (Virginia Tech) 10-2 10-0
11. Jordan Oliver Fall Ryan Jauch (Northern Iowa) 3:17 11-0
12. Jordan Oliver Fall Ben Cash (Iowa State) 2:26 12-0
13. Jordan Oliver Fall Nathan McCormick (Missouri) 2:41 13-0
14. Jordan Oliver Dec Tyler Clark (Iowa) 11-4 14-0
15. Jordan Oliver Maj Ben Cash (Iowa State) 22-8 15-0
16. Jordan Oliver Tech Casey Cruz (Northern Colorado) 22-7 16-0
17. Jordan Oliver Fall Dale Shull (NC State) 2:45 17-0
18. Jordan Oliver Maj Nathan McCormick (Missouri) 12-3 18-0
19. Jordan Oliver Maj Ridge Kiley (Nebraska) 14-3 19-0
20. Jordan Oliver Dec Andrew Hochstrasser (Boise State) 5-2 20-0
21. Jordan Oliver Tech Tyler Cox (Wyoming) 16-0 21-0
22. Jordan Oliver Maj Jordan Keller (Oklahoma) 17-4 22-0
23. Jordan Oliver Fall Ben Cash (Iowa State) :59 23-0
24. Jordan Oliver Maj Jordan Keller (Oklahoma) 15-3 24-0
25. Jordan Oliver Fall Tyler Small (Kent State) 2:56 25-0
26. Jordan Oliver Fall Levi Mele (Northwestern) 2:11 26-0
27. Jordan Oliver Maj Mike Grey (Cornell) 10-2 27-0
28. Jordan Oliver Dec Tyler Graff (Wisconsin) 5-2 28-0
29. Jordan Oliver Dec Andrew Hochstrasser (Boise State) 8-4 29-0
What a great opportunity for SJA wrestlers to share in a fantastic experience!
The X Factor in all this....Carver Hawkeye and 15,000 rabid Iowa fans. Iowa magic has lifted them over better teams in the past.
OSU 10 Iowa 10 thru 6 matches
285: Gelogaev (O) maj. Telford, 10-2
125: McDonough (I) maj. Morrison, 14-4
133: Ramos (I) dec. Oliver, 4-3TB
141: Marion (I) dec. Kindig, 9-7
149: Parks (O) dec. Kelly, 8-3
8:29
SetonHallPirate:
Very nearly a takedown by Moore...eventually, White did get the takedown, escape by Moore, 7-4 is the final...I had to emergency reset, sorry...
OSU 10 Iowa 10 thru 6 matches
Pokes win 16-16 on criteria....
Yes a very good dual in front of well over 15,000 fans. I though LoftHouse had his opponent pinned.
Great meet. The Ramos match should have never gone to OT. He clearly rode him long enough to erase the riding time but the clock never started counting down. I thought the coaching staffs were going to go at it at the table. NCAA's should be interesting with St. John back in the lineup and Gambrall back at 184
OK everyone who had this match turning out this way rais your hand. All of you that have your hand raised are liars.
Two words...HOLY CRAP...come to mind. In one month this dual would be totaly different. As far as Oliver Ramos....I just missed calling that one. I told you guys he would...wait...never mind. Great match by Ramos. Throw St. John in the mix and it is a different game.
But, at the end of the day....I say to all the shouldda couldda wouldda folks out there in Hawkeye land....SCOREBOARD. I will take any win against Iowa I can get and not care how it happened.
Now we look forward to March...when it really counts.