We drew a tough pool in Freestyle. We'll have to beat either Florida or Illinois.
#3 Florida
#6 Illinois
#11 Kansas
#14 Rhode Island
Indiana
Colorado
Oklahoma B Team
Erisman will have his two toughest guys at 160. Rocky Cozart (FL) and Travis Hammonds (IL). Hammonds is the #1 ranked 160 in the nation.
We are wrestling Indiana now.
It's official. Rocky Cozart(FL) will not wrestle freestyle. He will be in Fargo though. He has a scholarship to Michigan State and went 10-0 in Greco. We'll have to wait for the Erisman rematch in Fargo.
We just beat Indiana 52-12. Only one loss! Adcock got teched at 140 and we forfeited 275.
Nice start Kansas!
Kansas 52, Indiana Extreme 12
98 - Brandon Goodwin (K) pinned Jimmy Schoettle (I), 1:48
105 - Colin Hase (K) tech. fall Eric Davis (I), 21-11
112 - Donny Altman (K) tech. fall George Petrov (I), 12-2
119 - Brett Bahe (K) tech. fall Wes Patrick (I), 14-4
125 - Tim Elliott (K) tech. fall Jon Lloyd (I), 17-7
130 - Tristan Deshazer (K) pinned Jeremy Bryant (I), 0:38
135 - Josh Baldridge (K) pinned Blake Kenny (I), 4:06
140 - Andrew Howe (I) tech. fall Tyler Adcock (K), 10-0
145 - Joe Cornejo (K) tech. fall Chris Wanke (I), 10-0
152 - Danny Grater (K) tech. fall Bryan Jansen (I), 10-0
160 - Neil Erisman (K) tech. fall Cahmelan Porter (I), 10-0
171 - Ross Taplin (K) pinned Patrick Smith (I), 2:44
189 - Neil Cisper (K) pinned Michael Burke (I), 1:24
215 - Jacob Marrs (K) tech. fall Justin Cooper (I), 12-0
275 - Jody Philipott (I) won by forfeit
Kansas 45, Colorado Ski Bums 18
98 - Brandon Goodwin (K) won by forfeit
105 - Collin Hage (K) dec. Paul Montoya (C), 20-15
112 - Donny Altman (K) tech. fall Sean White (C), 13-2
119 - Tony Mustari (C) tech. fall Brett Bahe (K), 10-0
125 - Tim Elliott (K) tech. fall Nathan Childers (C), 28-17
130 - Tristan Deshazer (K) pinned Brad Neitenbach (C), 4:44
135 - Kevin LeValley (C) tech. fall Chase Moses (K), 16-5
140 - Rocco DePaolo (C) dec. Tait Weatherbee (K), 9-7
145 - Joe Cornejo (K) pinned Martin Sare (C), 0:12
152 - Danny Grater (K) tech. fall Brad Stansbury (C), 11-0
160 - Neil Erisman (K) tech. fall Bryce Clemner (C), 10-0
171 - Ross Taplin (K) pinned James Lucero (C), 1:08
189 - Neil Cisper (K) pinned Eric Vialpando (C), 2:28
215 - Jacob Marrs (K) pinned Jamie Matticks (C), 3:16
275 - Bryan Stansbury (C) won by forfeit
Mrs. Cornejo called and said they are beating Florida, as well!!!!!!!!!!
ROUND 3:
Kansas 40, Florida Rock You Like A Hurricane 20
98 - Tommy Bennett (F) tech. fall Brandon Goodwin (K), 11-0
105 - Colin Hase (K) tech. fall Demetrius Madry (F), 15-4
112 - Donny Altman (K) dec. Will Frazier (F), 7-4
119 - Franklin Gomez (F) tech. fall Brett Bahe (K), 11-0
125 - Tim Elliott (K) pinned Cory Baudensteil (F), 3:45
130 - Tristan Deshazer (K) dec. Alex Piasecki (F), 4-0
135 - Josh Baldridge (K) tech. fall Justin Edge (F), 10-0
140 - Cesar Grajales (F) tech. fall Tyler Adcock (K), 11-0
145 - Joe Cornejo (K) pinned Justin Seitz (F), 0:49
152 - Danny Grater (K) tech. fall Nick Raich (F), 11-0
160 - Neil Erisman (K) tech. fall Marco Toledo (F), 10-0
171 - Ross Taplin (K) dec. Justin Fraga (F), 7-5
189 - Neil Cisper (K) dec. Jesse Robbins (F), 6-5
215 - Jacob Marrs (K) pinned RObby Goode (F), 4:53
275 - Kenny Lester (F) won by forfeit
ROUND 4 (starts 9 a.m., July 2):
Pool C
#14 Rhode Island (0-3) vs. Colorado Ski Bums (0-2)
#3 Florida Rock You Like A Hurricane (2-1) vs. #6 Illinois (2-0)
Indiana Extreme (1-2) vs. Oklahoma Team #2 (1-1)
#11 Kansas (3-0) BYE
Anyone from Wichita area wanting to go down let me know, will be leaving around 8:15. A great chance to cheer on our Kansas Team.
ROUND 5:
#11 Kansas (3-0) vs. Oklahoma Team #2 (1-2)
Illinois defeated Florida 39-20 in Round 4 and remains undefeated in pool competition!
Rocky Cozart did compete for Florida at 189 lbs. during the Illinois dual.
ROUND 5:
Kansas 52, Oklahoma Team #2 10
98 - Colin Hase (K) tech. fall Ethan Martin (O), 10-0
105 - Brandon Goodwin (K) won by forfeit
112 - Donny Altman (K) tech. fall John Cowan (O), 11-0
119 - Brett Bahe (K) pinned Willie Gunter (O), 1:23
125 - Tim Elliott (K) dec. Tyler Zuckerman (O), 13-7
130 - Jamal Parks (O) dec. Tristan Deshazer (K), 5-4
135 - Josh Baldridge (K) tech. fall Lanc Ledesma (O), 12-1
140 - Tyler Adcock (K) pinned Zach Brown (O), 0:54
145 - Joe Cornejo (K) pinned Patrick Verity (O), 0:59
152 - Danny Grater (K) tech. fall Joe Hulsey (O), 12-0
160 - Neil Erisman (K) tech. fall Mitch McKee (O), 10-0
171 - Chris Kearn (K) won by forfeit
189 - Neil Cisper (K) tech. fall Wesley Brown (O), 13-2
215 - Jacob Marrs (K) tech. fall Joey Meyers (O), 11-0
275 - Jesse Hernandez (O) won by forfeit
ROUND 6:
Rhode Island (0-5) vs. #11 Kansas (4-0)
Illinois defeated Rhode Island 54-7 in Round 5 and remains undefeated in pool competition!
Pool Records after completion of Round 5
#11 Kansas (4-0)
#6 Illinois (4-0)
#3 Florida (3-2)
Indiana (2-2)
Colorado (1-3)
Oklahoma Team 2 (1-3)
#14 Rhode Island (0-5)
It appears Kansas and Illinois will advance undefeated to Round 7 and dual for the Pool Championship.
ROUND 6:
Kansas 43, Rhode Island 14
98 - Collin Hase (K) won by forfeit
105 - Anthony Valles (RI) tech. fall Brandon Goodwin (K), 11-1
112 - Donny Altman (K) won by forfeit
119 - Patrick Feeley (RI) dec. Brett Bahe (K), 8-3
125 - Tim Elliott (K) tech. fall Brennen Ward (RI), 10-0
130 - Justin Belanga (RI) tech. fall James Fox (K), 11-0
135 - Joel Webster (RI) dec. Chase Moses (K), 9-6
140 - Tait Weatherbee (K) pinned Sean Bilodeau (RI), 3:44
145 - Joe Cornejo (K) won by forfeit
152 - Danny Grater (K) won by forfeit
160 - Neil Erisman (K) tech. fall John Holzinger (RI), 10-0
171 - Ross Taplin (K) pinned Jared Czarneski (RI), 0:17
189 - Neil Cisper (K) won by forfeit
215 - Jacob Marrs (K) won by forfeit
275 - NO MATCH
Round 7
Illinois 35, Kansas 28
98 - Brandon Goodwin (K) tech. fall Joe Augle (I), 11-1
105 - Tyler Clark (I) tech. fall Colin Hase (K), 11-0
112 - Matt McNaughton (I) pinned Donny Altman (K), 5:25
119 - Nick Fanthorpe (I) tech. fall Brett Bahe (K), 10-0
125 - Jim Kennedy (I) tech. fall Tim Elliott (K), 14-3
130 - Conor Beebe (I) dec. Tristan Deshazer (K), 8-3
135 - Josh Baldridge (K) dec. Brandon Precin (I), 12-4
140 - Tyler Adcock (K) won by forfeit
145 - Joe Cornejo (K) dec. Sean Reynolds (I), 5-1
152 - Danny Grater (K) dec. Scott Wallace (I), 6-3
160 - Neil Erisman (K) tech. fall Travis Hammons (I), 11-0
171 - Ross Taplin (K) dec. Duke Burk (I), 3-2
189 - Rick Loera (I) tech. fall Neil Cisper (K), 11-1
215 - Jordan Johnson (I) dec. Jacob Marrs (K), 10-5
275 - Andy Greenwalt (I) won by forfeit
RED POOL:
#1 Iowa Dirty Rotten Corn vs. #5 Pennsylvania Team 1
#7 Minnesota Storm vs. #11 Kansas
#1 Iowa Dirty Rotten Corn vs. #11 Kansas
#7 Minnesota Storm vs. #5 Pennsylvania Team 1
#1 Iowa Dirty Rotten Corn vs. #7 Minnesota Storm
#11 Kansas vs. #5 Pennsylvania Team 1
Too bad KS didn't win the IL duel but they may be sitting in a better pool b/c of the loss.
wow, Erisman teched Hammons. he must be wrestling very studly this weekend to beat a senior national champ that badly. keep up the good work guys!
The Erisman match was never close and all of the guys wrestled great. I got to complain about no heavy though. In the future we have to field a full team, where are the heavys that could have wrestled for the team? I know that Coach Garcia was looking but no one stepped up to the plate. We are in a place now where it may come back and bite us. It almost did this afternoon in that it really went down to the next to last match and we would have not won because of no heavy.
For those not in church tomorrow, get your bottoms down there and support these wrestlers. They are representing Kansas with all of their hearts and I know they appreciate all of the fan support. We should have at least 3X more fans down there than we do. The national forums are all talking about Kansas, yet we don't have that many fans there and it is only 2 hours from Wichita. Great to see people drive down from Kansas City, now like I said, if not in church tomorrow, get down there and yell for the team.
The scores on the 98 & 105 also need to be corrected. Brandon wrestled at 105 and Collin wrestled at 98. Those two Cadets have given points to the team and when one of them picks up a win, it is nice to know that they get credit for it. I have to also say this about Collin, he has really picked it up since the Cadet Duals and is looking much better. Brandon has also contributed. Nice to know that those 98 pound Cadets are doing their part at 98 and 105.
#11 Kansas 30, #5 Pennsylvania Team #1 30
(Kansas wins on criteria of most individual wins)
98 - Colin Hase (K) dec. Jake Quinten (P), 6-2
105 - Jordan Oliver (P) tech. fall Brandon Goodwin (K), 10-0
112 - Matt Kyler (P) tech. fall Donny Altman (K), 10-0
119 - Brad Pataky (P) pinned Brett Bahe (K), 0:28
125 - Steve Mytych (P) dec. Tim Elliott (K), 4-3
130 - Tristan Deshazer (K) pinned Colby Pasani (P), 2:01
135 - Josh Baldridge (K) tech. fall Justin Accordino (P), 10-0
140 - Kellan Balum (P) tech. fall Tait Weatherbee (K), 10-0
145 - Joe Cornejo (K) dec. Ashtin Primus (P), 8-2
152 - Danny Grater (K) pinned Curtis Branchen (P)
160 - Neil Erisman (K) tech. fall Rob Waltko (P), 10-0
171 - Ross Taplin (K) pinned Brian Shaw (P), 0:24
189 - Neil Cisper (K) dec. David Woodall (P), 9-4
215 - Matt Panasevich (P) pinned Jacob Marrs (K), 5:08
275 - Mike Sullivan (P) won by forfeit
#1 Iowa Dirty Rotten Corn 33, #11 Kansas 28
98 - Colin Hase (K) dec. Andrew Long (I), 13-6
105 - Dalton Jensen (I) tech. fall Brandon Goodwin (K), 10-0
112 - Mark Kist (I) dec. Donny Altman (K), 8-6
119 - Brett Bahe (K) dec. Mike Mittle (I), 5-4
125 - Tim Elliott (K) dec. Montell Marion (I), 15-14
130 - Joey Slaton (I) tech. fall Tristan Deshazer (K), 12-0
135 - Mitch Mueller (I) tech. fall Josh Baldridge (K), 13-3
140 - Tyler Adcock (K) pinned Charlie Ettelson (I), 4:25
145 - Joe Cornejo (K) pinned Matt Ballweg (I)
152 - Ryan Morningstar (I) tech. fall Danny Grater (K), 10-0
160 - Neil Erisman (K) tech. fall Tom Slater (I), 10-0
171 - Chad Beatty (I) dec. Ross Taplin (K), 3-1
189 - Romeo Djoumessi (I) dec. Neil Cisper (K), 4-1
215 - Jacob Marrs (K) dec. Zach Covington (I), 8-3
275 - Mike Zimmerly (I) won by forfeit
Red Pool
Final Pool Round Robin Pairings
#1 Iowa (2-0) vs. #5 Pennsylvania (1-1)
#11 Kansas (1-1) vs. #7 Minnesota (0-2)
A Kansas victory over Minnesota will secure a second place finish in the Red pool.
Blue Pool
Final Round Robin Pairings
#9 New Jersey (2-0) vs. #4 Missouri (0-2)
#2 Oklahoma (1-1) vs. #6 Illinois (1-1)
An Oklahoma victory over Illinois will secure a second place finish in the Blue pool.
As I understand the pool pairings, the two pool champions will dual for the Championship, and the second place finishers will dual for third place. Providing Kansas and Oklahoma are victorious in their next duals, the two neighbors will dual for third place.
I'm a little confused. In the red pool, shouldn't there be a team that's 0-2?
Kansas 43, Minnesota Storm 16
98 - Colin Hase (K) tech. fall Tanner Weltzin (M), 11-1
105 - Cody Lensing (M) tech. fall Brandon Goodwin (K), 14-4
112 - Zach Sanders (M) tech. fall Donny Altman (K), 11-0
119 - Brett Bahe (K) dec. Andy Hackemueller (M), 9-4
125 - Tim Elliott (K) tech. fall Mike Thorn (M), 10-0
130 - Tristan Deshazer (K) pinned Paul Bjorkstrand (M), 5:00
135 - Josh Baldridge (K) pinned Jason Adams (M), 0:58
140 - Ryan Adams (M) tech. fall Tait Weatherbee (K), 11-0
145 - Joe Cornejo (K) tech. fall Jared McCarthy (M), 11-1
152 - Danny Grater (K) won by forfeit
160 - Neil Erisman (K) tech. fall Jake Grygelko (M), 10-0
171 - Ross Taplin (K) dec. Matt Schrupp (M), 20-11
189 - Tyler Gonzalez (K) won by forfeit
215 - Jacob Marrs (K) won by forfeit
275 - NO MATCH
CHAMPIONSHIP BOUTS:
1st PLACE: Iowa Dirty Rotten Corn vs. New Jersey Team Josh
3rd PLACE: Kansas vs. Illinois
Thanks for clearing up my confusion and also for keeping us updated. Me and The Swayz are very appreciative.
Is there not a backup at 215 that could be thrown in against Illinois? Congratulations on the work so far. That is an impressive run with an open weight.
Just heard that the Minnesota coaches and possibly some others were complaining about the "style" or "techniques" the Kansas wrestlers were using. Even heard about something they were doing that was “illegal.” Apparently it sounds like they may have filed a complaint or something of that nature. Anyone know what is up with that? I am at a loss and have had to deal with a tragedy today so haven't been able to follow much of what is going on and did not get to go down today like I had hoped after church. I have had a couple of calls about it and am going ahead and posting the question. Anyone having information about what is going on I would appreciate it.
Frankly I didn't see anything the two days I was down there. I know against Illinois that every time Kansas started to get a little physical the ref's stopped it but I thought that the officials there were being a little excessive.
Red Pool
Round One
Iowa Dirty Rotten Corn 41, Minnesota Storm 21
Round Two
Pennsylvania Team #1 36, Minnesota Storm 25
Round Three
Kansas 43, Minnesota Storm 16
The Minnesota coach has more to complain about than the Kansas team.
3rd PLACE: Illinois 38, Kansas 24
98 - Colin Hase (K) pinned Joe Augle (I), 1:55
105 - Tyler Clark (I) tech. fall Brandon Goodwin (K), 10-0
112 - Matt McNaughton (I) tech. fall Donny Altman (K), 15-4
119 - Nick Fanthorpe (I) tech. fall Brett Bahe (K), 11-0
125 - Jim Kennedy (I) pinned Tim Elliott (K), 0:50
130 - Tristan DeShazer (K) dec. Conor Beebe (I), 5-3
135 - Brandon Precin (I) dec. Josh Baldridge (K), 11-6
140 - Tyler Adcock (K) won by forfeit
145 - Sean Reynolds (I) by disq. over Joe Cornejo (K)
152 - Mike Benefiel (I) dec. Danny Grater (K), 11-4
160 - Neil Erisman (K) dec. Travis Hammons (I), 7-5
171 - Duke Burk (I) tech. fall Chris Kearn (K), 15-3
189 - Neil Cisper (K) dec. Bill Barnhisel (I), 6-2
215 - Jacob Marrs (K) dec. Jordan Johnson (I), 6-3
275 - Andy Greenwalt (I) won by forfeit
Congratulations to all the young men who represented Team Kansas and led the team to a fourth place finish. You have made us proud.
Great job!
We were being "too physical" or something on Minnesota is why they wouldn't wrestle the rest of the dual...They though we were trying to hurt them when we were just being physical...The whole tournament the ref's were bugging us about hammering the head and what not...
What happened with Cornejo getting DQ'd?
He didn't get DQ'd....he almost did...he was hitting a front head pinch and they called it before he scored his three both times saying something was wrong with it....then he pounded the head and they called him on that and gave the guy a point...the ref then talked to Joe and was tellin him to look him in the face which joe did and then the ref said do you understand and joe just stayed looking at him and said "get him outta here" but then the other ref talked and he wasn't DQ'd
I'll try to clarify a few points of course they are from my perspective.
I don’t know where the DQ came from in Cornejo’s results with Illinois. Joe was beaten 0-3 by a wrestler he had defeated the evening before. Joe was clearly frustrated in this match but was not DQ’d.
In the dual with Minnesota, I think, as Mr. Salyer has suggested, that MN coaches were having a bad day prior to an encounter with Team Kansas who have a very physical style. Kansas had just come off a 5-point loss to Iowa and could have experienced a “drop off” in their intensity. The wrestlers of Team Kansas were made aware of this and were asked to “keep wrestling.”
The first inkling of a problem was in their match up was at 130. A MN coach mistook some actions from the stands as being aimed at an injured wrestler. The coach sought security. However, even the mat judge, who was setting just below the fans, stated that what was being cheered was not aimed at the injured wrestler.
At 145, Cornejo banged the head and dug and under hook. The referee, as is his right, stopped the match and cautioned Joe about “un-necessary roughness.” As I said, it is an official’s right to use his/her judgment on that nature of action. Joe has a very intense style and expressed a bit of displeasure with this. After a bit more wrestling, Cornejo scored on a 2-point back bow but was once again warned about the physicality. Joe again was dis-pleased. The mat official addressed Joe and was not happy with Joe’s attitude. The ref asked the Kansas coaches to handle the situation and adjust Joe a bit.
At 171 Ross Taplin had a very physical match, which he won handily. Again in this match, the Minnesota coaching staff did not like the physical style of wrestling. The MN staff said they would forfeit the remaining matches and did so.
I’ve reflective on this and really am pleased that they did. They could have continued the match and perhaps got “more beat up” or they could have instructed their remaining wrestlers to be “very physical” with us. Either scenario would have brought even more bad blood between the teams.
That’s enough of that. Now, on to what I really wanted to post. It has been a great pleasure being around this group. As I stated in an earlier post, I am very proud of our graduated seniors. They are fine young men and have a big future in front of them.
"The first inkling of a problem was in their match up was at 130. A MN coach mistook some actions from the stands as being aimed at an injured wrestler. The coach sought security. However, even the mat judge, who was setting just below the fans, stated that what was being cheered was not aimed at the injured wrestler."
Here we go again....typical DeShazer behaviour
No ... you're quite wrong. I said it was during his match but it did not involve either him or his family. It was from another fan who was rooting for DeShazer!
Sorry....I jumped to conclusions. You just see something to many times and you start to expect it.
hawk1970 - Even when you are wrong, as in this case, you can't just admit you were wrong. You have to take a swipe at a kid and his family. Randy just told you - it wasn't Deshazer or his family. Just admit you made a mistake and leave it at that. There is no need to make a comment like "you just see something to (sic) many times and you start to expect it" I see by looking at your posts that you have only 4 post. All of them have had a comment about the Deshazers. Care to explain?
If by "typical Deshazer behaviour"you mean winning matches you're right.I was the the fan the Minn. coach had a problem with.I cheered LOUDLY for ALL Kansas wrestlers ALL week,I had no knowledge of any injury after the match. Jon Elliott
I meant no disrespect to the kid at all and if it came off that way I appologize. I think all the DeShazer’s are great wrestlers and are exciting to watch. I just think the family is classless and disrespectful….that I will not apologize for.
Nor will you post your name,a little classless in my book
Well - at least give your name. I mean if you are calling a 17 year old kid and his whole family classless at least put your name to it. But I know you won't. So those who read your comments can give them the weight the desrve.
wow a teacher was making the comments about deshazer??? maybe ur the one without class hawk
I have to say something here. I made a post on this forum and the mat regarding the "controversy", essentially because word was getting back and the request was made by a respectable person to find out what was going on at the duals regarding “the controversy.” I won't share who that was but will say that I believe that person is one of the most respected wrestling persons in the state of Kansas.
Here is what I know, because I was there for 2 days of the duals but not the day "the controversy" happened. None of the fans was yelling against other kids from other teams. Kansas fans were honorable and I was a proud to be in the stands with them. I know that some were loud. Well, Barry Disney among others can tell you that I was loud, maybe too loud at times at the Cadet Duals. I tried to mellow down some at the Junior Duals but one reason that this was kind of easy to do was that my son was not wrestling there. So Jon and Danny, I want you both to know that I admire you and you were actually a little mellow in my opinion. It was actually great sitting back watching you and you did your kids and Kansas proud. Now let me also say this, my name is on my post and I know that Danny DeShazer gets a little excited sometimes and says things that he maybe regrets, well I think he does. We all do that and I am no better than Danny or the worst person you can imagine doing this. Wrestling is an intense sport and that sometimes translates over to parents and or coaches. For someone to call him classless and not leave their name is a disgrace.
In an important, close, match, I would want Danny DeShazer above anyone else in Kansas or Oklahoma in my sons corner because I know that Danny cares for the kids he is coaching and can get the most out of at least my son. Danny DeShazer knows this and I mean it from the bottom of my heart. I consider him a friend and a great guy.
Again, Jon, Danny, or anyone else to my knowledge, did anything wrong at the duals. That is unless yelling for, and supporting your team is something we are not supposed to do. Just wanted to give my two cents because of the misinformation and garbage that some are implying and/or saying.
Hawk has a similar manerism to another KC guy we all think is classy: King James.
I met Mr. Deshazer for the first time at the Schoolboy Duals in Indiana. My son struggled with the competition during this tough tournament. On more than one occasion Mr. Deshazer had encouraging things to say about my boy. I was impressed by this. He took the time to speak with me about issues regarding the freestyle/greco format that I did not understand. Mr. Deshazer is a "classy" individual in my book.
Originally posted by Buster84:
I met Mr. Deshazer for the first time at the Schoolboy Duals in Indiana. My son struggled with the competition during this tough tournament. On more than one occasion Mr. Deshazer had encouraging things to say about my boy. I was impressed by this. He took the time to speak with me about issues regarding the freestyle/greco format that I did not understand. Mr. Deshazer is a "classy" individual in my book.
AMEN! I think to many people have criticized others in the state prior to meeting them. I know when I met the extended Hard Knox family I immediantly was impressed with their love for the sport and their teaching of tough in your face wrestling that many colleges love.
Hey....I call a spade a spade. I can't remember the last time that I was at a tournament and DeShazer wasn't a complete #ss and didn’t get in an argument with someone. I have never seen anyone play the victim card more than them. How can you always be the victim?
Just because he says some nice things to people that will have his back, doesn't make him a good person. If you want support him, fine...it just gives me a better idea of the morals you have. I may be the only one speaking up, but I guarantee I am not the only one that feels this way. The DeShazers are straight up thugs and an embarrassment to KS. I have had this conversation almost every weekend with someone.
Again, with all these comments I am speaking of the adults, unfortunately you can't pick your parents!
Mr. R. Walker (KC, MO)….for whatever this proves!
You must not go to many national tournaments...cause if you do and you are from kansas....Coach Deshazer will pump you up and try to help you as much as he can whether you need a coach or having a problem with a certain move...which he helped me out this last week at junior duals....
It prooves that you,Mr.R.Walker continue to call names and put down an entire family.You started this about a situation you knew nothing about,after learning the truth you continue to run your face.I hope your entire family is not judged by your lack of class.{you can't pick your parents}.I also suggest if you have issues with members of a certain family take it up with them personally like a man.Name calling on a puplic fourm seems rather childish to me.You may not be the only one who feels this way, but I'd like to think your the only one with the lack of man skills to resort to these tatics Jon Elliott (Please tell me you're not a teacher)
Dear Mr. walker:
It would seem that if someone is guilty of bad behavior it would be you. In first post you jumped to conclusions and falsely accused someone of bad behavior. Then when confronted and proven wrong you gave an insincere apology and tried to justify your mistake by attacking the family’s character. Then you attempt to justify your behavior by pointing out alleged past behavior. I like Mr. Disney looked at your profile and if you are a teacher I would hope you do not evaluate or judge your students on past performance, by jumping to uninformed conclusions or family character.
It would also seem that you have an unhealthy obsession with the Deshazers. As Mr. Disney pointed out all of your posts thus far have been about them, and by your own admission you spend every weekend discussing them. This behavior worries me because the incident that you accused the Deshazers of was caused by my brother. I can only hope that you don’t develop an obsession for my family and turn your stalking behavior toward us.
Mr. Walker (which proves nothing) if anyone is a complete #ss it would be you. I would suggest that in the future when you call a spade a spade, you know what a spade is, or at least aren’t one yourself.
Well nice to know that my morals and others have also been attacked because I have made the effort to get to know the man instead of listening to the people gossip and talk about others behind their back like you Mr. Walker. Usually the concept of morality comes from somewhere. I know where mine comes from; unfortunately, I have a hard time seeing where yours comes from.
I come from a long tradition, that says; “if you aren’t willing to say something to the persons face, then keep your mouth shut.” Another that says; “if you can’t say something good about someone don’t say anything at all.” Another that says; “if you haven’t spoken to the individual about a problem then don’t say anything to anyone else.” Now all of those are things I have failed at in the past, and am sure I will do so again in the future, we are all human and make mistakes. The measure of a man though is that after they have made a mistake are they willing to correct it. Unfortunately, you have been called out on this individual you made a mistake about and are still unwilling to address it appropriately.
I would say that you do just as I did at one time, if there is a problem with Danny DeShazer, go speak to him about it, face to face, just like a man would do. I think you will find him polite and appropriate if doing so. Does Danny gets riled up at times, and maybe cross the line on occasion? Many of us do, that doesn’t make us all bad coaches though. One of my concerns as a father, because I try not to coach my kid when I don’t have to, is to have the best coach possible in my sons’ corner. Danny DeShazer stands up for the kid, fights for them if need be, knows wrestling as well as anyone in the state of Kansas, no offense to any one, and is a former 2X state champion that can still wrestle. He is able to find ways to reach some kids that no one else can. Is he for all kids? Of course not but he is a great coach for many kids.
How good is he at that? Here is what I know. My son did pretty stinking well last year at Fargo, considering that he had a torn abdominal muscle, and because of it only had 2 practices between the duals and Fargo. Danny DeShazer volunteered to help him and other boys. I firmly believe that the work that Danny did is what enabled my son to do so well and I give him the majority of the credit. Did he have to do that? No, but he did for my son and about 10 or more other kids. This man is continually giving back to Kansas Wrestling. Is he controversial at times? Yea, but only to those who haven’t had the decency to get to know him or work with him. Is that his problem? I don’t think so I think it is the problem of people who continue to talk about others. I know this, now people that have had all of these thoughts in the past will have to wonder what it is that has Chase, The Elliotts’, Furches, Disney and others speaking this mans praises? Maybe, just maybe, he isn’t the bad person others have made him out to be. If you want to judge the morality of those of us in that circle, then you just don't know much about morality.
Well put, Mike. I would agree that at times we have all crossed the line emotionally during our kids matches. It's sometimes called passion or zeal. As a coach myself, I have received warnings about my emotions at matside. It's not sought after, but is a result of your investment in these kids lives. I don't know Coach Deshaser personally, but I was in Enid for two full days and have to say that he showed a tremendous amount of encouragement to our Kansas kids. It served as a powerful motivation to our team. I don't have a son on the Junior team but my 8th grade son and I made the trip to OK because of our love for the sport. Danny Deshaser has that same love for the sport and loyalty to Kansas kids. I applaud him for it.
Eric Johnson
It's hard to watch someone that you helped mold in close matches. I remember coaching my little brother for his championship match at state. I was as pumped for him to be in that position as I was for myself when I was in that position. Unfortunately he lost 6-5, but I have never yelled so loudly for anybody in my life. Point is that you can get really emotional when someone you helped teach the sport to is wrestling. It's a lot like being the wrestler. All you want to do is help your wrestler win, and you do what you think will help win the match. If Coach Deshazer has something to say to the ref, he says it. I like coaches like that. It may not help the ref change his ruling, but as the wrestler it actually pumps you up a little bit.