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Posted By: Mark J Stanley John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 12:55 PM
John McCain

In high school McCain held the EHS wrestling record for “Fastest Pin” for two years; his record was broken in 1954. In his senior year, he wrestled in the 127-pound weight class. Senator McCain also was a lightweight boxer while attending Annapolis.

....the other guy played basketball
Posted By: Chief Renegade Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 12:56 PM
Add that to the list! I knew I liked you Mark.
Posted By: RichardDSalyer Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 01:28 PM
The only thing I like about McCain. Having been a lifelong registered Republican, primarily due to PAST practices of fiscal restraint, I honestly believe my party has brought all this upon ourselves and our country by not insisting on a stronger candidate.

The other candidate is intrinsically evil supporting the unfettered taking of innocent human life, along with certain economic and social policies which give me major heart burn.

Sarah Palin received two votes from my wife and I and I am proud to say my 23 year old son, 21 year old son, 19 year old son, and just turned 18 year old daughter also support Palin.

Sticking with tradition, we all voted this morning.

Posted By: doug747 Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 02:09 PM
Well said Richard. I believe his heroic acts during his time of captivity are another great part of McCain's "body of work". I too disagree with many of his politics, but he is definitely the "lesser of two evils", though calling McCain evil is over the top. I have sent many a "campaign fundraising solicitation" back to them with the simple statement: "I will support you as a candidate, as a party, as a organization, when and if you are willing to make the Fair Tax a part of your agenda. This includes support financially, and at the voting booth" Those things always have an envelope that says "no postage necessary if mailed in the US" so it doesn't cost me a cent!!
Posted By: Chief Renegade Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 02:56 PM
Nice to hear that Richard! Two points to make...

1. Setting aside Obama's Pro-Abortion, Anti-Traditional Marriage, Anti-Gun Ownership, Pro-United Nation's stances, he believes that the 40% of American's that PAY NO TAXES are the "hard working" ones. The small business owner that works from 6AM till 8PM is not?

2. If America's enemies are throwing parties tonight if he wins, then I want the other guy!
Posted By: LancerLou Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 04:45 PM
This topic should be moved to the "Other" forum. Please leave politics out of our wrestling forums.
Posted By: Chief Renegade Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 07:35 PM
Ah C'mon. It's election day. I thought you were for the fairness doctrine.
Posted By: PatrickCavanaugh Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 08:10 PM
Originally Posted By: LancerLou
This topic should be moved to the "Other" forum. Please leave politics out of our wrestling forums.


With Obama's wealth redistribution plan this forum may turn into a ghost town, as we will not have time for such luxuries as talk forums! We will all be working our second third & forth job so our hard earned money can go to a slacker.
Posted By: LancerLou Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 08:11 PM
Now, Chief, you know life is not fair! I love politics, but this is not the place.
Posted By: RichardDSalyer Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 10:52 PM
Originally Posted By: LancerLou
Now, Chief, you know life is not fair! I love politics, but this is not the place.


The topic title is "John McCain Wrestled" and this is a wrestling talk forum.

The topic title is very clear and no one is forcing you to read or reply to the topic.
Posted By: LancerLou Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/04/08 11:19 PM
The title is a sham. I will leave you guys to have fun agreeing with each other.
Posted By: Chief Renegade Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/05/08 03:18 AM
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Posted By: Chief Renegade Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/05/08 03:19 AM
Let the celebrations begin in Iran, Syria, North Korea, Russia, Venezuela and every terrorist camp. Their candidate won.
Posted By: WC Dad Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/05/08 05:29 AM
John McCain is a great hero to our country and we all owe him a debt of gratitude for his long term service to America... and though I voted for him, I believe he was the wrong choice to face the overwhelming hatred for Bush and the Republicrats that have destroyed a once great party. As the great Ronald Reagan once said when he described his former Democratic party, "my party left me", and now we are left with a potential for a new quote, "my country left me"! Although this forum is for wrestling talk and this topic should be in another forum (and I haven't posted on this forum for quite a while), I read the comments above and felt compelled to respond. I wonder why many more people don't hold the same values that have been displayed... it's the values that many of us in this area of the country hold with great pride, but obviously the people who were targeted by Obama supporters to vote in this election were convinced to vote with their hearts and not their heads. I love this country and I pray that we haven't witnessed a shift to a place of "Change and Hope" that we will regret in a few years. Chief Renegade is right in that those countries are celebrating, but I have a feeling that they may also be wringing their hands to make their impact felt as we have never felt before... God bless this country, and for those of you who felt the courage to voice your opinions here, don't lose hope that better days may be just around the corner when people wake up to reality!

Sorry for the rant, but I feel better now!
Good luck to all this season!
Chris Goff
Posted By: Mike Furches Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/05/08 02:53 PM
First, while this topic started out as a wrestling topic, it turned into something else and at the very least, imho, was never related to a kids discussion. That said, I did an article on my thoughts on the election at which you can see by

Clicking Here

or

Clicking Here

Here are my thoughts, the election is over, and as mentioned by McCain last night, and Obama, the time for healing is to start. I see little value in continuing to bring about discourse, nor do I personally see benefit in personal attacks. It is time to work on the things we agree on, debate things we disagree on, and move from there. Bush 43 has a couple of months to go and then Barack Obama is the next president of the United States. The office deserves respect, and in this great nation, he won the election and is the choice of her people. It would be a shame to see a wedge driven between those who love the sport of wrestling because someone chose to vote for a different candidate than we. Truth is, my hope is not, never has been in the president of the United States, I have a faith and a Savior who is bigger than that and as a result, my hope is in the things provided me by my Savior, not by my president. I will also do as my faith dictates, I will pray for our leaders, that they will rule with a wisdom given by God and that God will bless them.
Posted By: master blaster Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/05/08 03:09 PM
Wont be posting much anymore, I'll be to busy clinging to my guns and religion.
Posted By: Chief Renegade Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/05/08 04:24 PM
Agreed Mike. Romans 13:1 sets it straight. I will also pray for this great country and it's leaders.

“First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior. (1 Tim 2:1-3)

Posted By: Benelli Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/20/08 07:46 PM
OMG!!!! Give me a break!!
Posted By: Chief Renegade Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/21/08 04:07 AM
Originally Posted By: Benelli
OMG!!!! Give me a break!!


Well thought out benelli. Were you on the debate team?
Posted By: Benelli Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/22/08 03:07 AM
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: Benelli
OMG!!!! Give me a break!!


Well thought out benelli. Were you on the debate team?


Yea, right after I got out of Church School, where we compared Humans to frogs!!
Posted By: Chief Renegade Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/22/08 04:08 AM
Perfect. Stay with the frog story. Whatever you do, don't think about entropy.
Posted By: dvldg Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/26/08 09:09 PM
And how many have died in the name of religion?
Posted By: Mike Furches Re: John McCain Wrestled - 11/27/08 02:55 PM
Originally Posted By: dvldg
And how many have died in the name of religion?


The operative term would be "in the name of religion." In the name or religion is not a direct result of religion. I normally stay out of debates of this nature, but I also get tired of seeing real faith, (often meaning real Christianity) being blamed for things that they don't do. It is one of the reasons I distinguish the difference between religion, (which I could personally care less for) and a relationship with God through Jesus Christ, which is what real Christianity is about. In that regard, if looking specifically at the teachings of Jesus there is a great deal of difference between what religion promotes and what Jesus taught, in fact, most theologians will tell you that is the distinct difference between Christianity and other religious beliefs, most are based on what you do, Christianity is based on who you know.

I would say yes, a lot of death from religion, especially from one religion to another, the truth is, most martyrs during the reformation, (Christians), were killed at the hands and directives of others who called themselves Christian. However, their faith was based on a state system, not a relationship with Christ. If however you want to look at who gives the most to help the poor, feed the hungry, provide for those around the world that need the most help, there is no doubt, no one comes close to what Christians do. Anyone who would debate that point has no understanding of world events.

It is true there are some religions that promote hate that even promotes the destruction of the "infidels", Christianity, where Jesus is called the Prince of Peace, and calls his followers to be peacemakers, are not among those in my opinion.
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