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Brandon Goodwin (98 lbs.) of Kansas went 7-1
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Dustin Bratton (Indiana) Pin 4-7,1:54
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Eric Crowe (Louisana) Pin 0:41
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Steven Keith (New York) Pin 8-1,0:28
Brain Reisener (North Dakota) over Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) Dec 4-3,4-1
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Gavin Speelman (Ohio) Pin 0:37
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

Nathan Furches (105 lbs.) of Kansas went 7-1
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Jimmy Schoettle (Indiana) Pin 0:32
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Dan O`Malley (New York) Dec 7-0,7-4
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Colore Sveum (North Dakota) Inj
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over DJ Tenney (Minnnesota 2) Dec 4-0,3-2
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Bud Ireland (Virginia) 10-0,DQ
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Grant Sutter (Wisconsin) over Nathan Furches (Kansas) Dec 3-0,0-6,4-2

Donny Altman (119 lbs.) of Kansas went 6-2
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Mathew Fields (Indiana) Dec 6-0,4-1
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Johnny Calcote (Louisana) TF 7-0,10-4
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Ian Paddock (New York) Pin 8-1,1:57
Justin Solberg (North Dakota) over Donny Altman (Kansas) Pin 0-7,1:21
Zach Sanders (Minnnesota 2) over Donny Altman (Kansas) Dec 1-0,5-2
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Kevin Chapman (Virginia) TF 6-1,8-2
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Kenny Keller (Ohio) Pin 8-1,0:22
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Josh Chappa (Wisconsin) TF 6-0,7-0

Tyler Caldwell (125 lbs.) of Kansas went 7-1
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Mark Pore (Indiana) Pin 1:10
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Chad Ravannack (Louisana) Dec 5-1,2-2
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Dave Foxen (New York) Dec 3-2,2-1
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Evan Forde (North Dakota) Dec 0-2,6-6,6-0
Cody Adams (Minnnesota 2) over Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) Dec 7-0,6-1
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Coty Riggleman (Virginia) Inj
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Matthew Stoll (Ohio) Pin 7-1,0:52
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Jonny August (Wisconsin) Dec 3-2,5-0

James Fox (130 lbs.) of Kansas went 6-2
James Fox (Kansas) over Blake Harvey (Indiana) Dec 6-0,3-0
James Fox (Kansas) over Spencer Dussoy (Louisana) Dec 6-0,4-0
Matt Mariacher (New York) over James Fox (Kansas) TF 2-4,6-0,6-0
James Fox (Kansas) over Josh Roberts (North Dakota) TF 7-0,7-0
James Fox (Kansas) over Brian Litch (Minnnesota 2) Dec 4-3,3-2
James Fox (Kansas) over Josh Claassen (Virginia) Dec 7-1,3-0
Josh Carmona (Ohio) over James Fox (Kansas) TF 7-1,6-0
James Fox (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

Aldon Isenberg (135 lbs.) of Kansas went 7-1
Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) over Austin Early (Indiana) Pin 0:25
Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) over Jimmy Ballantyne (Louisana) TF 3-7,6-0,7-0
PJ Gillespie (New York) over Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) Dec 3-0,4-0
Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) over Geoff Martin (North Dakota) TF 7-1,7-0
Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) over Jake Saatzer (Minnnesota 2) TF 7-0,0-7,7-0
Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) over Shirif Grey (Virginia) Dec 5-0,6-0
Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) over Josh Speelman (Ohio) Dec 5-7,4-3,8-2
Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) over Ben Brusch (Wisconsin) TF 7-0,9-0

Derek Koehn (140 lbs.) of Kansas went 4-4
Alex Warren (Indiana) over Derek Koehn (Kansas) Pin 1:00
John Kent (Louisana) over Derek Koehn (Kansas) Pin 1-5,1:29
Don Vinson (New York) over Derek Koehn (Kansas) TF 6-0,7-0
Derek Koehn (Kansas) over Josiah Simburger (North Dakota) Dec 4-0,6-0
Mike Davis (Minnnesota 2) over Derek Koehn (Kansas) Dec 6-0,4-3
Derek Koehn (Kansas) over Paul Ginups (Virginia) Pin 1:09
Derek Koehn (Kansas) over Tom Graszi (Ohio) Dec 5-0,4-7,3-1
Derek Koehn (Kansas) over Ben Thone (Wisconsin) Pin 0:22

Jordan Edison (145 lbs.) of Kansas went 1-7
Jordan Edison (Kansas) over Thomas Pompei (Indiana) Dec 5-0,4-5,3-1
Jeffery Slaughter (Louisana) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Dec 8-4,5-3
Gonzalo Farina (New York) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Pin 1:37
Nathan Schweiter (North Dakota) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Dec 4-3,4-1
Cody Schultz (Minnnesota 2) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Dec 7-0,4-0
Joel Hutchens (Virginia) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Dec 9-4,4-3
Thomas Windom (Ohio) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) TF 6-0,6-0
Dustin Perry (Wisconsin) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) TF 7-0,7-0

Sean Flynn (152 lbs.) of Kansas went 4-4
Sean Flynn (Kansas) over Will Moore (Indiana) TF 6-0,6-0
Sean Flynn (Kansas) over Cody Leger (Louisana) TF 6-0,6-0
Lance Wade (New York) over Sean Flynn (Kansas) Dec 6-0,6-4
John Basting (North Dakota) over Sean Flynn (Kansas) TF 7-1,0-6,6-0
John Branddtjen (Minnnesota 2) over Sean Flynn (Kansas) Dec 9-3,6-2
Sean Flynn (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Sean Flynn (Kansas) over Michael Sadler (Ohio) Dec 1-3,7-4,2-2
Kendall Vogel (Wisconsin) over Sean Flynn (Kansas) Dec 3-2,7-2

Joey Hambleton (160 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-6
Joey Hambleton (Kansas) over Brett Habinga (Indiana) TF 6-0,9-2
David Bonin (Louisana) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Dec 6-0,4-2
Francois Guierre (New York) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Dec 2-3,5-3,3-1
Joey Hambleton (Kansas) over Garrett Andel (North Dakota) TF 7-0,7-0
Matt Mauseth (Minnnesota 2) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Pin 6-0,0:55
Andrew Clement (Virginia) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Dec 3-1,7-1
Tyler Mickley (Ohio) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Dec 6-1,2-1
Dustin Hoffman (Wisconsin) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Pin 7-0,0:22

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Jarrett Edison (215 lbs.) of Kansas went 4-1
Jarrett Edison (Kansas) over Eric Ousley (Indiana) TF 7-0,7-0
Jarrett Edison (Kansas) over Greg Kempton (Louisana) TF 8-1,6-0
Jarrett Edison (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Jarrett Edison (Kansas) over Cameron Stewart (North Dakota) Pin 1:23
Brent Eidenschink (Minnnesota 2) over Jarrett Edison (Kansas) Pin 1:07

Atticus Disney (215 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-1
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over David Speaker (Virginia) TF 6-0,6-0
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Jim Nemunaitis (Ohio) Pin 0-4,1:19
Dallas O`Malley (Wisconsin) over Atticus Disney (Kansas) Pin 1:18

Atticus Disney (275 lbs.) of Kansas went 5-0
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Chico Adams (Indiana) Pin 0:52
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Ivan Muller (Louisana) Pin 1:38
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Jarrod Langehaug (North Dakota) Dec 6-0,4-0
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Evan Hacker (Minnnesota 2) Pin 7-4,0:40

Steve Andrus (275 lbs.) of Kansas went 0-2
Nick Cook (Virginia) over Steve Andrus (Kansas) Dec 1-1,1-2,5-3
Joe Levickis (Wisconsin) over Steve Andrus (Kansas) Dec 3-0,1-1


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Brandon Goodwin (98 lbs.) of Kansas went 4-0
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Andrew Brachins (Michigan) TF 6-0,7-0
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Eric Crowe (Louisana) Pin 8-2,0:18
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Brandon Goodwin (Kansas) over Dante Reynolds (Texas) TF 7-0,8-0

Sharkey Slyter (98 lbs.) of Kansas went 3-1
Sharkey Slyter (Kansas) over Josh Griffen (Oklahoma 1) Dec 1-1,2-0
Ridge Kiley (Iowa) over Sharkey Slyter (Kansas) Dec 5-0,4-0
Sharkey Slyter (Kansas) over Chris Sokol (cover RT tricep) (Wisconsin) Dec 2-1,3-0
Sharkey Slyter (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

Nathan Furches (105 lbs.) of Kansas went 8-0
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Ladd Rupp (Oklahoma 1) Dec 2-0,0-3,4-0
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Jarrret Martin (Michigan) Pin 0:33
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Zack Campion (Iowa) TF 7-0,6-0
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Ryan Curwick (Wisconsin) Dec 8-6,6-0
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Justin Hammons (Tennessee) Pin 7-0,0:38
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Nathan Furches (Kansas) over Taylor Salinas (Texas) TF 8-0,8-2

Alan Callahan (112 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-6
Jerald Jenkins (Oklahoma 1) over Alan Callahan (Kansas) TF 7-0,7-0
Alan Callahan (Kansas) over Holden Hummel (Michigan) Dec 6-0,1-0
Mark Kist (Iowa) over Alan Callahan (Kansas) Pin 1:00
David Staines (Louisana) over Alan Callahan (Kansas) Dec 1-0,4-0
Zach Elliott (Wisconsin) over Alan Callahan (Kansas) TF 6-0,9-1
Demetrius Johnson (Tennessee) over Alan Callahan (Kansas) Pin 6-0,1:10
Alan Callahan (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Brandon McDonald (Texas) over Alan Callahan (Kansas) Pin 9-0,0:4

Donny Altman (119 lbs.) of Kansas went 8-0
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Adam DeLong (Oklahoma 1) Dec 8-7,7-1
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Adam Wilson (Michigan) Dec 6-3,8-0
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Quin Leith (Iowa) Dec 3-0,7-3
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Ryan McKenzie (Tennessee) Dec 7-0,2-0
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Kevin Chapman (Virginia) Dec 7-0,1-0
Donny Altman (Kansas) over Jeremy Sandovall (Texas) Pin 1-9,1:53

Tyler Caldwell (125 lbs.) of Kansas went 6-2
Greg Cannon (Oklahoma 1) over Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) Dec 2-0,3-1
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Mark Webber (Michigan) Dec 4-5,3-1,4-0
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Dalton Jensen (Iowa) Dec 6-0,3-2
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over John Calcote (Louisana) 6-0,Inj
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over TJ Wunnicke (Wisconsin) Pin 3-8,6-0,0:52
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Caleb Myers (Tennessee) Pin 10-3,0:48
Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) over Shirif Grey (Virginia) TF 7-0,6-0
Ben Ashmore (Texas) over Tyler Caldwell (Kansas) Dec 2-0,2-0

James Fox (130 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-0
James Fox (Kansas) over Frank Sade (Michigan) Pin 1:31
James Fox (Kansas) over Ben Johnson (Tennessee) Dec 1-0,4-1

Nick Shumate (130 lbs.) of Kansas went 5-1
Nick Shumate (Kansas) over Matt Torence (Oklahoma 1) Dec 5-2,6-7,4-2
Montel Marion (Iowa) over Nick Shumate (Kansas) Dec 5-7,7-0,5-1
Nick Shumate (Kansas) over Chad Ravannack (Louisana) Dec 5-0,7-1
Nick Shumate (Kansas) over Malachi Root (Wisconsin) Dec 1-6,4-3,7-1
Nick Shumate (Kansas) over Josh Claassen (Virginia) TF 7-1,6-0
Nick Shumate (Kansas) over Josh Sandoval (Texas) Dec 1-3,5-0,8-1

Aldon Isenberg (135 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-3
Jamal Parks (Oklahoma 1) over Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) TF 7-0,6-0
Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) over Marshall Koethe (Iowa) Dec 4-2,2-0
Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) over Jake Madigan (Wisconsin) Dec 3-2,0-5,4-1
Mikey Fuller (Tennessee) over Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) Dec 4-0,2-1
Luke Silver (Texas) over Aldon Isenberg (Kansas) Dec 6-0,2-3,3-0

Adam Almaguer (135 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-1
Rob Karasiewicz (Michigan) over Adam Almaguer (Kansas) Dec 6-0,1-1
Adam Almaguer (Kansas) over Troy Ardeneaux (Louisana) TF 6-0,7-0
Adam Almaguer (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

Derek Koehn (140 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-2
Seth Vernon (Oklahoma 1) over Derek Koehn (Kansas) Dec 4-10,7-0,4-1
Luke Satern (Iowa) over Derek Koehn (Kansas) Pin 0:56
Derek Koehn (Kansas) over Zack Eunice (Louisana) TF 7-0,8-0
Derek Koehn (Kansas) over Corey Manson (Tennessee) Dec 3-2,0-4,3-3

Tyler Koehn (140 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-2
Jeff Steele (Michigan) over Tyler Koehn (Kansas) Dec 0-1,7-0,4-0
Tyler Koehn (Kansas) over Elias Rotgers (Wisconsin) TF 7-1,7-0
Tyler Koehn (Kansas) over Timmy Miles (Virginia) Dec 1-0,4-0
Luke Ashmore (Texas) over Tyler Koehn (Kansas) Dec 3-0,2-0

Jordan Edison (145 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-5
Dallas Bailey (Oklahoma 1) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Dec 3-0,5-2
David Johnson (Michigan) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Dec 8-5,7-3
Brett Rosedale (Iowa) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Pin 0:48
Jordan Edison (Kansas) over Ian Ballentyne (Louisana) TF 1-1,7-0,7-0
Greg Burke (Wisconsin) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Pin 1:02
Ryan Fuller (Tennessee) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Dec 3-2,6-0
Johnny Keeppe (Texas) over Jordan Edison (Kansas) Pin 1:53

Derek Koehn (145 lbs.) of Kansas went 1-0
Derek Koehn (Kansas) over Joel Hutchens (Virginia) Dec 6-0,3-2

Sean Flynn (152 lbs.) of Kansas went 3-5
Chris Hacker (Oklahoma 1) over Sean Flynn (Kansas) Dec 10-3,5-6,5-3
Sean Flynn (Kansas) over Jake Bohn (Michigan) Pin 7-1,1:40
Matt Ballweg (Iowa) over Sean Flynn (Kansas) TF 6-0,6-0
Sean Flynn (Kansas) over Mike Buddie (Louisana) TF 7-1,7-4
Joe Clothier (Wisconsin) over Sean Flynn (Kansas) Pin 0-6,6-0,1:26
Brandon Wright (Tennessee) over Sean Flynn (Kansas) Dec 4-1,5-4
Luke Brugh (Virginia) over Sean Flynn (Kansas) TF 7-1,7-0
Sean Flynn (Kansas) over A.J. Forsythe (Texas) Pin 3-3,0:36

Joey Hambleton (160 lbs.) of Kansas went 3-5
Derek Peperas (Oklahoma 1) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Dec 8-0,5-3
Joey Hambleton (Kansas) over Andrew Anderson (Michigan) Dec 7-2,6-0
Jake Kerr (Iowa) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Pin 0:29
David Bonin (Louisana) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Dec 3-1,4-5,6-0
Joey Hambleton (Kansas) over James Dederich (Wisconsin) Dec 0-4,4-0,4-0
Darius Williams (Tennessee) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Dec 8-3,4-3
Joey Hambleton (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Taylor Torisk (Texas) over Joey Hambleton (Kansas) Pin 1:23

Neil Erisman (171 lbs.) of Kansas went 7-1
Chris Perry (Oklahoma 1) over Neil Erisman (Kansas) Dec 3-3,2-2
Neil Erisman (Kansas) over Cam Simaz (Michigan) Dec 7-0,5-0
Neil Erisman (Kansas) over Andy O`Laughlin (Iowa) Dec 6-0,0-2,5-4
Neil Erisman (Kansas) over Delano Palmore (Louisana) Pin 5-1,0:38
Neil Erisman (Kansas) over AJ Kissel (Wisconsin) TF 5-0,6-0
Neil Erisman (Kansas) over Tyler Roberson (Tennessee) TF 6-0,7-0
Neil Erisman (Kansas) over Matt Jones (Virginia) TF 7-0,7-0
Neil Erisman (Kansas) over Fred Rowsy (Texas) Dec 6-0,4-1

Jarrett Edison (189 lbs.) of Kansas went 3-2
Jeff James (Oklahoma 1) over Jarrett Edison (Kansas) Dec 7-1,2-0
Jarrett Edison (Kansas) over Mike Baker (Michigan) TF 7-0,7-0
Jarrett Edison (Kansas) over Brody Ambrose (Iowa) Pin 0:35
Jarrett Edison (Kansas) over Brice Jacobs (Louisana) TF 6-0,6-0
Malcolm Briggs (Wisconsin) over Jarrett Edison (Kansas) 1-1,5-0,Inj

Atticus Disney (215 lbs.) of Kansas went 6-1
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Corey Johnson (Oklahoma 1) TF 8-0,6-0
Dan Craig (Michigan) over Atticus Disney (Kansas) Dec 1-0,2-3,3-0
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Mitch Sander (Iowa) Pin 0-3,1:12
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Greg Kempton (Louisana) Dec 3-4,7-0,6-1
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Rory Edge (Wisconsin) Pin 1:39
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Charles Weber (Virginia) Pin 0:25
Atticus Disney (Kansas) over Robert Prigmore (Texas) Dec 1-0,3-0

Steve Andrus (275 lbs.) of Kansas went 2-5
Nathan Fernandez (Oklahoma 1) over Steve Andrus (Kansas) Pin 6-0,0:25
Zach Anderson (Michigan) over Steve Andrus (Kansas) Pin 7-1,0:18
Steve Andrus (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Ivan Miller (Louisana) over Steve Andrus (Kansas) Dec 7-0,2-1
Aaron Toll (Wisconsin) over Steve Andrus (Kansas) Forf
Steve Andrus (Kansas) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf
Troy Witt (Texas) over Steve Andrus (Kansas) Dec 3-0,5-


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It was a solid performance by our Junior Team! Yet, overall, was not to the level of Missouri, Oklahoma, Iowa, Pennsylvania and without a doubt, nowhere near Illinois.

We come close to matching the abilities of the elite but we lack the team depth to compete in this format. Are there others Kansas wrestlers who can help? Clearly, yes ... but for whatever reasons, they decided to forego Summer wrestling!

Does Summer wrestling showcase your talents? Without a doubt! There were dozens of college coaches, notepads in hand, that were seen working the crowd in the last few days. Our wrestlers talked of having made contacts that they would not normally make.

Showcasing your talent on the National level is an issue I've discussed before. If I was a wrestler thinking about wrestling in college I would have been at this tourney. For that matter, if I was a parent who needed a way to help pay for college, I would have made sure my wrestler was in Oklahoma City.

Expense is an issue I've heard discussed. But, the expense for the Kansas contingent was among the cheapest of any team in Oklahoma City.

More thoughts later!


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Overall records:

Furches - 15-1
Altman - 14-2
Caldwell - 13-3
Goodwin - 11-1
Disney - 11-1
Isenberg - 9-4
Fox - 8-2
Erisman - 7-1
Jarret Edison - 7-3 (1 inj. def)
Flynn - 7-9
D. Koehn - 6-6
Shumate - 5-1
Hambleton 5-11
Slyter - 3-1
J. Edison - 3-12
Almaguer - 2-1
T. Koehn - 2-2
Callahan - 2-6
Andrus - 2-7

Team Kansas had many courageous efforts in OKC. We had several Cadets that helped the team in tight spots and made our state proud! To name a few...Jordan Edison fought tough against Dallas Bailey in the first FS dual...Alan Callahan overcame his injuries and beat the kid from Michigan...Brandon Goodwin went 7-1 and pinned or teched everyone in FS...Furches was again a blast to watch avenging his only loss of the week by beating the kid from Wisconsin 8-6,6-0...Disney's fantastic week with his only loss a close match with Dan Craig from Michigan...Neil Erisman dominated after his opening round loss to Chris Perry from Oklahoma 3-3, 2-2. Perry was a State champion as a freshman and is the son of Mark Perry (OSU), brother of Mark Perry jr.(Iowa) as well as John Smith's nephew. One of the biggest highlights of the weekend was an effort to help our State team from Jarret Edison. Kansas was unable to fill the 189 spot until Jarrett pulled the additional weight on short notice for the team! This seemed right in line with the character that Jarrett has shown through his career and made all of us proud! That young man has a great future ahead of him. There were many more great stories from our Kansas kids that wrestled their hearts out for our State on the biggest stage in the nation. Thanks to the coaches and all of those parents that paid the price to invest in our Kansas kids!

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Originally posted by usawks1:
It was a solid performance by our Junior Team! Yet, overall, was not to the level of Missouri, Oklahoma, Iowa, Pennsylvania and without a doubt, nowhere near Illinois.

We come close to matching the abilities of the elite but we lack the team depth to compete in this format. Are there others Kansas wrestlers who can help? Clearly, yes ... but for whatever reasons, they decided to forego Summer wrestling!

Does Summer wrestling showcase your talents? Without a doubt! There were dozens of college coaches, notepads in hand, that were seen working the crowd in the last few days. Our wrestlers talked of having made contacts that they would not normally make.

Showcasing your talent on the National level is an issue I've discussed before. If I was a wrestler thinking about wrestling in college I would have been at this tourney. For that matter, if I was a parent who needed a way to help pay for college, I would have made sure my wrestler was in Oklahoma City.

Expense is an issue I've heard discussed. But, the expense for the Kansas contingent was among the cheapest of any team in Oklahoma City.

More thoughts later!
Randy here is my question, would our efforts and money be better spent preparing for Fargo as opposed to the team competitions?


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Fan’s of the sport, supporters of Kansas Wrestling needs to make the effort to get to some of the dual action, Schoolboy, Cadet, or Junior. It is the highlight of the wrestling year, I think in some ways, even superior to Fargo because we are truly there competing as a team. Nothing like a kid from Derby, having a competitor from Topeka cheering him on, or for that matter a parent from Manhattan cheering on a kid from St. Thomas.

From an organizational perspective, something has to be done. I find it disturbing that many on our state board don’t attend any of the duals to see for themselves the unity and positive attributes these duals bring to the sport of wrestling on a state level. We often use the excuse that the sport is for the kids, but when it really comes down to helping out the kids the most, many that promote that concept don’t attend our state dual team competitions. Some on our board will be disturbed by this comment, but I truly believe that we have an obligation to thoroughly know what goes on in the sport that we support. I must give a huge compliment to Randy Hinderliter here. He among others, like Chief Renegade, not only give of their time to the sport, they go watch, participate in, and help our sport beyond just sitting behind a keyboard making key strokes on a daily basis. While this may be all that some can do, we should each challenge ourselves to do what we can, and accept nothing less than our best. Our kids and athletes after all deserve the best effort from those that promote helping the kids. Please understand, I am not saying that the level of participation and support by some isn’t enough, for them it may be all they can do, only they and God know the truth though as to if we, including me, are giving back to our young men and women that we state we love so much that we want to give them the best.

I would ask, what do we mean when we say we are in it for the kids? Ultimately, I believe, it means that we want to provide the best opportunity possible for our kids, not just on a kids level, but ultimately for the sport, and ultimately for the long term benefits for those involved. I challenge, that no venue provides those opportunities like the dual format in the summer.

Like it or not, the reality is that there are more college coaches looking at Kansas wrestlers at the Junior Duals, and Fargo than any other competition, with the possible exception of the Senior Nationals for the year. I would say that Fargo has more than Senior Nationals. In fact, there were more college coaches watching our wrestlers this weekend, than likely all other events all year combined. Those numbers will go up even more for Fargo. On a national level, these tournaments bring recognition to our athletes beyond anything else any other event provides for the duration of the year.

Let me be clear as to my thought regarding the dual teams, and summer wrestling in particular. After being involved in the sport for some time, we as an organization must do everything possible, to not only promote it on a higher level, but where possible, support it on a higher level. Our kids programs has to be seen as a building block to provide the ultimate benefit to our sport, that is providing opportunities for our kids on the highest level possible. For some that may be a kids state championship, others a high school championship, others a college championship, and possibly others, an Olympic championship. I challenge that when providing these types of opportunities of helping wrestlers obtain their goals, they come back, and ultimately help the sport and we then see the circle of life that is involved in wrestling.

We have many challenges ahead of us. I see an issue with the fact that we have open weights at national tournaments on a Junior level. There is frankly, no excuse for that and we should do everything humanly possible to see this don’t happen again. Parents, fans, coaches and the organization, has to do everything possible to make sure that finance is not a factor for many kids. I will tell you that when you need back ups, and you do, our 189 pound showed that after an injury in the Free portion of the Jr. Tournament, those wrestlers don’t want to pay the full price of wrestling, only to get some wrestling if any in.

As I was leaving the tournament yesterday I overheard a parent state, well while the team didn’t do that well, we won the ones that mattered, the ones that we came to watch (name of wrestler withheld) wrestle. I take offense to that as a parent, and somehow we have to find ways to address and change this attitude. Our boys this weekend wrestled hard, but truth is there are things we could have done better and I don’t think we should be satisfied. Our young men and women, when applicable, have to understand that they are at these events to represent the state of Kansas. It is a team, it is not an individual. I would gladly see my son, lose his matches, but contribute points on a team level and then see that team win or place high, than all of the individual accomplishments on the planet. I have spoken to many about this and for those that know me, they know I share my heart in truth on this, I would gladly turn in a state championship for the individual, even 4 for a single team title.

Wrestlers have a responsibility, you have made great sacrifice, longer than most and you continue to contribute, but things like eating right, wrestling at the correct weight, getting to bed on time, and so forth are a part of the commitment. Then you have to be there to support each other. Don’t celebrate a win that you may have just had when there is a team mate on the mat. The best example I can think of on this issue is Jarrett Edison. I have never, and I repeat never seen this young man cut weight. I really appreciate his families perspective on wrestling which is why I consider this entire family one of the Great ambassadors for the state of Kansas. Yet, he made the decision to cut around 10 pounds in one day to help the team and see to it that we could fill a full team for the Freestyle portion of the tournament. He made a sacrifice to work his rear off over the course of a day to make weight at 189. Then, unfortunately he got hurt, this being said, he could have gone home, and done so many other things, but what did he do? He made the effort to be there and cheer on his Kansas teammates. He was in bed on time every night, not out partying chasing girls or any of those things that are so typical for high school kids to do. He was there for his team, and made sacrifices for his team. Coach James at UCO is in for a treat with this young recruit. I have no doubt that he will be a team leader and to be provided that opportunity is something I look forward to seeing happen in his life.

Coaches also have responsibilities, I think sometimes though we have too high a standard for coaches and burden them with so much that they can’t do the one thing they love to do, that is coach. There is much that could be said here, but I will leave it with the fact that we know who our coaches are, we should be supporting them.

Organization, we have to see the big picture. Some may not like Freestyle and Greco, some may not see the benefit of it. I will challenge that for many of those, I understand, especially if you never go to a tournament or a dual competition. Go once though and I believe your opinion will change.

Parents, Fans we also have a responsibility. We have a responsibility to have expectations of our young men and women we raise. It may not sound appropriate, but I believe the greatest mistake we make is trying to be our kids friend. We forget who the adult is and who the child is. Be a parent, set high expectations on things like behavior, effort and so forth. If the child we are raising does something inappropriate, act accordingly. It is not fair to expect high levels of expectations on kids if we don’t enforce those expectations.

As a whole we have a great start, I know sportsfan didn’t actually ask me my thoughts, but I wanted to share them.

Again, as a point of clarification, I am not getting onto anyone here. Not trying to, but trying to open up the door of discussion on this, and help us all, again, including me, realize, there is more I can, and should do.

Sportsfan, after rereading the post, I need to give clarification I am not speaking of you. Truth is I have no idea who you are. It is possible you are going to the events and all, but I just don't know. I did want to give clarification though, I am not trying to single out any individual, especially you.

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Sportsfan -

I think the duals do prepare the boys for Fargo. One, it gives them a number of high quality matches. Two, it gives the coaches an idea of what the kids are weak on so the camp can address those needs. What was working and what wasn't working?

We are still about 3 weeks out from Fargo. Still do early for Fargo camp. Likelihood if the boys weren't at the duals they would have been home doing little or nothing.

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Sportsfan ... thanks for the question and your obvious interest in Kansas Wrestling!

First, Mike and Barry have made several great points but I'll try to make a few more!

"... would our efforts and money be better spent preparing for Fargo as opposed to the team competitions?"

We've witnessed kids going to Fargo and after spending roughly $450 for the week, go 0-2 or 0-4. I've also seen kids at the duals go 0-18.

I guess the question really has to do with value! What is the greater return on the money spent? (please read about the Overtime School of Wrestling) I believe there are discounts given to wrestlers who chose to do both the Duals and Fargo.

I will stand by the thoughts I presented before, that if I could only chose one event, I would chose the duals! This seems a pretty good value!

Another view is that currently there is a very limited camp for the duals. I discussed at length this fact with a mentor of mine and his belief is that we need to take the Duals much more serious!

I apologize for my fragmented thoughts ...

Another friend of mine is proposing a fund raising effort to defray some of the expense of Summer wrestling!

I think there is also, as Mike suggested, some value in the TEAM concept. The team concept in an individual sport is one that is terribly intriguing. Especially in FS/GR scoring when a wrestler can gain team points in a loss or when an opponent you defeated can gain points!

(the past two weekends had my personal processor overheating doing the math in duals)

Value! In the past I spent a large amount of money sending my kid to a camp with a big named college coach. Coach "Big Name" was there for one session, shook some hands, signed some autographs, took some snapshots, but didn't teach a session. My kid didn't learn a lot but remembers meeting Coach "Big Name!" I guess from my kids perspective ... this was a good value. From mine, he would of gotten more from spending a week Coach Klemm.

Sorry for the ramble!

If a wrestler this past week was training, eating right, and getting good quality instruction then perhaps they made strides. If they show up at Fargo camp fired up and ready to go ... then maybe ...

I can't help recall the lamentations of perhaps the most hated poster on the Kansas wrestling forums. Many of you only saw the negatives in the posting of Gutwrench. But he did challenge us to do a better job ... mostly he challenged coaches!

These past two weeks might give credence to his thoughts!


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Man I need a nap after reading Mike’s post it wore me out!

There are tons of benefits from wrestling the summer… But I also think their needs to be some balance in a kid’s life also. Most of these guys have been on some sort of mat since early November; think about the commitment that it takes to compete at this kind of level for 7 months. Young men/women can do other things that will enhance their skills without wrestling. They need some time off to do what ever they want… work, swim, play ball and chase the girls. You are only 16 or 17 once. This should be the choice of the athlete, not somebody that isn’t out training all the time for an extra 30 matches. It’s great that some of these kids make this choice but it’s not for all of them. So to insinuate that these guys have somehow let their State down is absurd!

Don’t get me wrong… I love Freestyle/Greco but it’s a big undertaking with all the traveling and expense. I’m not one to worry about the cost but if my boys want to make money working summer jobs so they can be unemployed in the winter that works for me! I also think this is an asset that will carry them in life… “How to be self supportive”.

As far as College wrestling goes any kid that wants to wrestle at the next level CAN! You may not get that “Partial” D1 deal but you can sure go to any Juco or D3/NAIA School with a few letters and e-mails promoting yourself A few good grades doesn’t hurt things either. Less than 1% of all the high school athletes, all sport included will ever compete at the D1 level.

Use wrestling as a means to supplement your education, a motivator or a tool to get the big picture taken care of! Solving world hunger! Finding a cure for cancer! Being a mentor and taking a disabled kid fishing. If that’s not your cup of tea then there is always room for "few good men" in the military! God bless our troops on this 4th of July! And all the rest of you do the same... have a great holiday.


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Parkwayred -

Well said. I think there is something to be said for "well-rounded" kids who are involved in several quality activities.


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This topic is like so many others that we will encounter thoughout our life. Leaving use with many good ideas from all points of view. I have seen many young athletes who for some reason or another their senior year of school completely drop out from a sport due to pressure to stay on top, to be constantly training, just plain being burned out.

As for many of these young men like may of use their priorities will change, what we want or think at this moment may not be our desire this time next year or by the time they graduate. Does this mean that they are letting their State down? NO! Does it mean they let their parents down? Only those who are living their lives through their kids. If tomorrow all the kids who participated in the Junior duals went to their parents and said I no longer feel like wrestling, that they would much rather do something different what ever that may be, would you support them and still you yourself think strongly of your ideas on how to change the sport for Kansas?

And for the parent(s) who may of made a comment like the team didn't do very well but we won the ones that mattered. Well they where just being honest on how they feel, as long as they did not comment on another young mans efforts, and fault them for the teams loose (Go to a baseball, or basketball game you will here enough of that). But to make a statement that you would throw away all the individual accomplishments away for a team Championship is a little bit bold, to make.

Do we condem the ones who choose to represent their State in another tournament, does this mean that they did not work out as hard, or show dedication to the sport, NO. Same goes for the ones who have choosen to take on other tasks like working a job, and in some cases not allot of kids have the luxury of parents who have the time or means to travel or to send their kids to costly tournaments. And with some peoples budgets this could mena $50.00 is hard to come up with.

They only thing I kinda see wrong with this time of the year is that we do not start FS/GR allot sooner in the season, have more support of tournaments to attend, and that State was June 3, and 3 weeks before Junior Duals and another waiting period before Fargo its hard to keep in entrance though these long gaps.

And also keep in mind High School Football in some shape or fashion has started with summer weights, team camps and so on. And if you want to talk team consept, or getting your priority's stright just set down with a HS Football coach.

I have probably done nothing but add fuel, or confuse the issue more than it was.

But congradulations to all Kansas Wrestlers for a great summer of enjoyable wrestling, and thank to the many new clubs that started this summer bringing in more kids to the sport, and that we may be needing to look at a larger place to hold State as the interest grow.

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Great discussion. There are great points on all sides, but i tend to land on the side with Mr. Furches that we need to promote the team concept a bit more with our summer wrestlers. On numerous other topics we have discussed the fact that we start a bit later than other states in getting our national teams set, i think from discussions that this is something we are working on improving upon, I am heartened to hear about the little adjustments that are being made. We will have kids/cadets and Juniors at one venue next year at Southern Plains-that is fantastic!

I have been blessed to personally witness what duals mean to my son. Gage has participated in duals the past three years and though he has not racked up very many wins, i strongly believe that the benefit for him has been immeasurable.

He came home from Cadet duals, bruised, bloodied and beat up physically. I expected him at that point to be down and ready to take a rest-tell me he was wanting a break but instead, as he crawled out of bed for weights the next day at 5 am, he was talking about how excited he was about Fargo and the OSU camp he was attending and football season coming up. He has great perspective about his abilities, knows what he needs to work on and has grown so much mentally.

I live and work daily with at risk kids, with nothing to look forward to, no way to learn life lessons-get back up and start again. I would much rather have my son learn through through the great sport of wrestling. If he said to me that he was done competing, he still would be better off having participated and grown.

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Man I need a nap after reading Mike’s post it wore me out!

Hey at least you just had to read it. I had to take a nap after posting it because it took so much effort. I am okay to disagree on this, the debate is good. Regarding the comment of trading an individual championship for a team championship; I would say ask most coaches which kind of athlete they would prefer. Actually it would be great to have both, an individual and a team state, but if only one I still prefer one team. Those friends from a team will last a lot longer than a medal.

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"Likelihood if the boys weren't at the duals they would have been home doing little or nothing."

With all due respect, not all the boys that weren't at duals were at home doing little or nothing. My wrestler has been working all summer to buy a car. Since he is taking off 2 weeks for Fargo, he has actually been working his butt off. If that makes him less dedicated to the sport, so be it. To a 16 year old boy, having a car is pretty important as well. Somebody said something about balance in life - this is balance.

There are probably many more reasons why kids chose not to wrestle duals. We have to be respectful of each and every wrestler and family's decisions that are made.


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My comment wasn't directed at your son. I don't even know who he is. My comment was directed at what my son would most likely be doing if he wasn't wrestling. If you reread the post it talked about what the boys who were at the duals would be doing if they hadn't come. Since your boy wasn't at the duals it wasn't directed to him. I agree each family has to make their own choice. I figure my son only has a few years to wrestle in the duals and then its over for the rest of his life. But he will be working and buying cars (and houses and paying bills and etc...) for a long long time. Is the balance you talk about for the teen age years or for life? Because for a life time the working and paying bills is going to far outweigh the few summers spent wrestling. A young man needs to wrestle now. It won't be here forever. Like bills.

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I agree on most all of the points. Being the mother of both a wrestler with a great record, AND one that was not so great, to some eyes, I can say first hand that the duals will change a wrestler forever. It teaches so much, in so many ways and the wrestlers that participate will never be the same wrestler again. For some, it may break them, and for some it will make them champions, but I firmly believe that it definitely changes them forever. The dual format is the best thing any serious wrestler can do for themselves. It doesn't make a wrestler bad if they don't participate but it doesn't hurt them either. For Jarrett, it seems to fine tune him and thankfully, most times with a win. For Jordan, I think I speak for many, that he got better as the week went on and wrestled really tough with some tough competitors. This can never be bad. Ok, I will stop before I get Furches'ed. Thanks to the great state of KS for all the support they have give my boys in furthering their wrestling careers. While some cannot see the value, I for one, have seen first hand,in many aspects, the value that the summer programs have for our wrestlers and for our state. God Bless America and KS Wrestling!!!!!!!!!

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I agree with Mrs.Edison. Last year I went like 1-10 in freestyle and came home a little bit dejected. This year I went 11-1 and came home with a whole bunch of confidence. I can't wait for Fargo. But besides all that I got to meet alot of cool people like Swayze and cool wrestlers that I have seen before and some that I have heard of but never had the privelige of meeting. You never know how cool it is to have someone like Neil Eriisman or Jarrett Edison or Nick Shumate or Donnie Altman
slap you on the butt or back and say go get em. Now as I start my senior year when I go to tournaments and I see some of the guys who were on the team I won't be afraid to go up and say hello. Because we were a part of something together. I am not going to get into the debate on what kids should or should not be doing. I'm just a dumb kid. But I would like to think that with all the talent in this state we should not be open at any weights.

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Glad there were no room mate comments in there. It could have gotten bad on both sides.

On a serious note, Brandon is another example of what I am speaking of. He goes 11-1 contributes greatly to the team. Brandon, only thing I would say is that you are far from a dumb kid, you are a young man who has sacrificed along with his family to contribute to Team Kansas, that's worth something in my book and I believe that next year will pay dividends for you, as well as Fargo.


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