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#192323 09/28/11 11:35 PM
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This is just conversation, a couple of coaches and I were talking today about single elimination nationals again this is just conversation. Would you enter your child in a single elimination national for example tulsa, if you knew 1 and done your out after driving , air , hotel ect.? There were 3 of us in this conversation and 2 of us said yes and one was a no. Honestly I would just to see if my boys has the desire to win and the other agreed. Let me know your feedback on this.


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I think the hotel air etc. is sunk cost already if they win or lose. That shouldn't be the factor.

Development of the wrestler is the key, I think they can learn a lot and have great experiences coming out through the backside of the bracket.

Overall it isn't something I like.


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No, As a veteran of hauling a kid to these tournaments for years. My son improved more from repeated high level matches at tournaments like Tulsa, etc. Him getting 2nd and Tulsa and then getting challenged at the end of a long 5-6 match day helped mold him into a tough competitor. He had years early on he went and went 3-2 and got a ton out of it. These matches are about getting as many high quality matches as you can and then see where you end up. One of his biggest leaps as a competitor came at Liberty one year when he lost in the quarters of a 64 man bracket and came back to get 3rd. He wrestled every 15 minutes it seemed but sucked it up and overcame. There has never been a situation since them he did not think he could push through and he knew others would quit. Wrestling at high end nationals becomes a mindset. A mental toughness they carry through HS whenever it's tough. JMO

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Yes indeed - double elimination.

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Each kid is different and what each parent does should be based upon REALISTIC expectations of their kid. If you can afford it and you think your kid can compete, go. But, I would never take my son to single elimination tournament, unless it was real close and I didn't mind being home early. I saw Pre-season Nationals - if I am right - is only 1 minute rounds. I would of liked to go, but I believe if you have a tournament, it should at least be 1.5 minute rounds and double elimination. Money comes hard these days, a potential waste of it makes no sense.

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I'm still trying to figure out why any tournament would be single elimination.

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I personally like the challenge for second rule and wish KS would adopt this rule. You get a true outcome of the bracket. Who likes the challenge for second rule that they use at a the Roller tournaments and a variety of other tournaments?


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Yes on the challenge for 2nd...why not? The way most brackets play out the best 2 kids face off in the semi finals and maybe a lesser kid makes the finals, and gets 2nd. I know it adds a few more matches to a tournament, but aren't we there for mat time and the kids??

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Allaround,

Not every kid is as good as Mason. Back side matches pushes them to a goal, no different than the front side. Single elimination, NO, unless you're looking for bragging rights.


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