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Will,
All we have to do with these refs is put them on hgh/steroids. They get bigger, stronger, faster, return from injury quicker and best of all ............. Drumroll........... KSHSAA won't do anything about it because its just fine that these things go on. They don't care


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Originally Posted By: J. Dale
Will,
All we have to do with these refs is put them on hgh/steroids. They get bigger, stronger, faster, return from injury quicker and best of all ............. Drumroll........... KSHSAA won't do anything about it because its just fine that these things go on. They don't care


Jerry, where the Hell is this coming from? I know we are just good ole poor country folk in Ark City, but what are you getting at? I do not see a great physical difference in kids. Is there someone in particular that you feel has bent the rules? Quit pussyfooting around and say what you have to say, or quit bringing it up.


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It could be a different thread...

While the public movement in professional sports is to ELIMINATE performance enhancing drugs there is NOTHING being done about them in high school sports in Kansas.

While college athletes are subject to random testing there is no process for testing nor punishing Kansas High School athletes who may be utilizing steroids or HGH.

Many HS athletes have sought medical assistance to overcome a lack of growth or late growth. What we are seeing is a growing number of wrestlers on prescribed steriods or HGH in HS sports. I believe Jerry would like to shed the light on this as there is a growing sentiment across the nation that HS athletes should be accountable for the use of performance enhancing drugs. If an athlete chooses to get HGH through a prescription, the feeling is that they should also be making the choice to forgo HS athletics.

I don't want to take words out of Jerry's mouth but from my perspective I believe this is the direction his topic is headed.


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I would say that I have seen one wrestler this year that would be a likely candidate for prescription HGH based on the last two years versus this year. It wouldn't surprise me if there are a lot more cases. Where do you draw the line? As far as steroids, I am not sure how prevalent they are in today's high schools. I am probably being naive by thinking that they aren't that common. I would hope that I am right.


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Chad,
I will never name an individual KID due to the stupidity of parents or doctors. In most cases I know of it is the parents making these decisions. If you can't see which kids in hs wrestling are using these things you're not paying attention real close. If you would like to visit with me you've got my number. But either way you look at it it's wrong.


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Maybe test all the state qualifiers at their regionals? If someone tests hot...give them 48 hours to provide a clean sample. If they fail (this is where having a 5th/6th place match would be good)....take the 1st alternate and so on.


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Originally Posted By: Cokeley

Many HS athletes have sought medical assistance to overcome a lack of growth or late growth. What we are seeing is a growing number of wrestlers on prescribed steriods or HGH in HS sports. I believe Jerry would like to shed the light on this as there is a growing sentiment across the nation that HS athletes should be accountable for the use of performance enhancing drugs. If an athlete chooses to get HGH through a prescription, the feeling is that they should also be making the choice to forgo HS athletics.


Unfortunately, most of these cases are self inflicted. The parents are having kids pull 5+ pounds from the time they are four years old. These parents should not be surprised when the childs growth is stunted. These are the ones that should not be able to continue wrestling and us the drugs. The problem is, what do you do with a child that truely in medical need of the drugs help. You can't expect all Doctors or Parents to do the right thing, there are just too many that wont.


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Then they need to choose. Grow or sports. It's very unfortunate that a few of these kids are so small. They weren't dealt a fair hand I agree. But you can't screw every other kid on the way up by giving them a competitive advantage. Google some of this hgh and tell me what you think then.


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