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One of my responsibilities as a moderator is to help keep the talk forum jumping and to bring up new issues. I just noticed this morning the approval and recommendations from USA Kansas regarding the coaches code of conduct and application. I am personally in favor of this and believe that the recommendations and actions could have been even stronger in requiring a background check on all coaches. I am interested as to if this was discussed and what individuals think.

I know that USA Wrestling is encouraging states and clubs to do background checks on coaches and that the process is not very expensive. As a parent and as a coach, I would have no issue with this if it were required in order to obtain my coaches card or coach with a club. Is this something that USA Kansas has discussed and what is the progress of those discussions? What are reasons for or against a background check of coaches? As parents I don't think many would object to a small additional cost to insure the safety and well being of the children.

Currently outside of the forms themselves, how do clubs protect their children and assure that they have coaches who are appropriate?

At this point and time it appears as if the efforts are suggestions and not requirements, should their have been more teeth to those recommendations? I believe that the Code of Conduct is a strong document that should be required of coaches as opposed to just suggested. As a parent of a wrestler, it would make a difference if I knew in advance that clubs did background checks on their coaches and adhered to these documents. I would opt to take my child to a club that honored and used these documents and did a background check over a club that did not. What do you think?

The links to the two documents are as follows:

http://www.usawks.com/CoachCodeConduct.pdf

http://www.usawks.com/CoachApp.pdf
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Several have emailed me and brought up the issue of money regarding the background checks. I remember talking to T.C. Dantzler about this in the past because of his company that is working with USA Wrestling regarding doing background checks. I have also been the Executive Director in the past of an organization that required background checks on all employees. Even now, we get those checks for all volunteers at our church. In the past, I remembered those checks costing between $5 and $25 per individual. Far below the cost as presented by some of $100+. I spoke to T.C. again this morning to get further information regarding the company he works with and that is contracting with USA Wrestling.

His company is contracting with USA Wrestling as mentioned above and numerous other sports organizations. It is an understanding that insurance companies, including those covering USA Wrestling are going to be requiring those checks in the near future for insurance purposes. T.C. had even spoken to me at one point about donating the profits or a portion of the profits of the background checks in Kansas back to the Tyler Graebner Fund. All of that being said, regarding the supposed $100 or more cost that some have mentioned is not true. The cost of the background check including a social verification, complete criminal record, etc... from T.C.'s company is $15, a far cry less than the $100+ mentioned by some. I don't know who those individuals are, just know that these are the numbers that some have emailed me with and others told me about, numbers that far outweigh the actual costs of the checks.

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If you go through the KBI then background check without fingerprints is $17.50. With fingerprints is $30.00. I don't know why you would use a private firm. Here is the link
http://www.accesskansas.org/kbi/criminalhistory/request_public.shtml

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Greetings,

I am T.C. Dantzler 2x former Greco world Team member and CEO of TC logiQ. TC logiQ has partnered with USA Wrestling to provide affordable background screening for it's coaches and volunteers.

I first want to applaud Mike Furches on having the courage to bring up such a "Taboo" topic in today's youth organizations.

Secondly I want to say that as professional in the screening industry I would like to answer any questions that anyone may have regarding background screening for youth organizations.

I am not here to promote TC logiQ. I do however want educate people on price, data integrity and myths regarding my industry.

You may reach me via email thomasd@tclogiq.com or call direct @ 719.210.9360.

Thanks in advance

T.C.

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To Bdisney:

For $17.50 KBI will give you only the state of Kansas's criminal records.

This info will not include Sex Offense Registry in 47 States(3 states don't report) or SSN trace and SSN verification.

An accurate search should have nationwide capabilities, as well SSN verification and Sex Offense Registry in order to run an adequate screening.

Fingerprinting is the best answer however in most cases it is not affordable $30.00 for most non-profit organizations and in KBI's case it is limited to the state of Kansas.

Hopefully this will add some clarity to data integrity and what you recieve for the price.

T.C. Dantzler

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The CoC is a great document (instrument). The Bronze Clinic is also a great instrument. Background checks too. And these take great effort to develop and operate.

The corporate world has a relevant adage, "people do what you measure". I am not aware of an instrument to measure the consumer's (parent's/kids/officials) satisfaction.

I too have witnessed less than "good sportmanship" or "responsible behavior" from role-models...for many youth sports. And it does seem to be on the rise.

What is in place, has to be in place. But maybe it's a good "start". Somehow the results of any instruments need to be presented to the stakeholders (parents/officials/coaches/etc.)


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Originally posted by Scott Fausset:
The CoC is a great document (instrument). The Bronze Clinic is also a great instrument. Background checks too. And these take great effort to develop and operate.

The corporate world has a relevant adage, "people do what you measure". I am not aware of an instrument to measure the consumer's (parent's/kids/officials) satisfaction.

I too have witnessed less than "good sportmanship" or "responsible behavior" from role-models...for many youth sports. And it does seem to be on the rise.

What is in place, has to be in place. But maybe it's a good "start". Somehow the results of any instruments need to be presented to the stakeholders (parents/officials/coaches/etc.)
Frankly I'm disappointed. Someone will need to point me towards the paragraph that speaks directly to sportsmanship. You would think this would be a major part of this document and it doesn't even use the word.


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Originally Posted By: T.C. Dantzler
To Bdisney:

For $17.50 KBI will give you only the state of Kansas's criminal records.

This info will not include Sex Offense Registry in 47 States(3 states don't report) or SSN trace and SSN verification.

An accurate search should have nationwide capabilities, as well SSN verification and Sex Offense Registry in order to run an adequate screening.

Fingerprinting is the best answer however in most cases it is not affordable $30.00 for most non-profit organizations and in KBI's case it is limited to the state of Kansas.

Hopefully this will add some clarity to data integrity and what you recieve for the price.

T.C. Dantzler


To answer some questions, I realize this is back when it was first being looked at and a few minor things may have been changed but it has been discussed before


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