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Some 4A rankings stats....

*82% of the state placers were in the top 6 rankings
*28 wrestlers finished exactly as they were ranked
*9 champs were correctly predicted
*got 9 of the top 10 teams right & nailed the first 4

That's about it. But not bad, I'd say. I think we deserve a raise.

Good job ranking crew for all your hard work all year long.

And more importantly, congrats to all the state champs & placers!

If you weren't ranked and placed to prove us wrong...way to go, that's exactly what we like to see!

If you were ranked and placed, thanks for making us look good:)

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It made it MUCH easier to do with Ark City in 4A. smile

Next year KSHSAA will put the top 36 total enrollment count schools in 6A, the next 36 in 5A and 60% of the remaining WRESTLING schools in 4A leaving the remaining 40% in 321A.

4A could look something like this:

Shawnee Mission-Bishop Miege
Ottawa
Winfield
Augusta
Buhler
Paola
Tonganoxie
Kansas City-Piper
Towanda-Circle
Fort Scott
El Dorado
Independence
Chanute
Louisburg
Mulvane
Altamont-Labette County
Coffeyville-Field Kindley
Abilene
Eudora
Rose Hill
Ulysses
Atchison
Wellington
Wamego
Baldwin
Topeka-Hayden
Andale
Iola
Clearwater
Parsons
Chapman
Nickerson
Garnett-Anderson County
Wichita-Trinity Academy
Carbondale-Santa Fe Trail
Osawatomie
Pratt
LaCygne-Prairie View
Holton
Clay Center Community
Girard
Kansas City-Bishop Ward
Columbus
St. George-Rock Creek
Baxter Springs
Wichita Collegiate
Galena
Burlington
Hugoton
Concordia
Meriden-Jefferson West
Frontenac
Larned
Lindsborg-Smoky Valley
Holcomb
Marysville
Hesston
Scott Community
Colby
Goodland
Wellsville
Perry-Lecompton
Haven
Russell
Halstead

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I'm pleading with KSHSAA to please put a a page of school abbreviations in the front of the program next year. We're going to need it!

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Correct, Will. Except one note, take out the schools without wrestling from that list, and that adjusts things slightly. It will bump a few more up from 321A.

Since the "60-40" formula is for the sport of wrestling only, it only affects schools that offer it.

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And of course, next year's actual enrollment counts on Sept. 20-whatever date they determine the day to be....is the number that will be used. So there could be slight variations, but usually not much major differences.

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According to this year's count. There were 61 schools in 4A and 8 of those will move up to 5A. That leaves 53 plus the 91 321a schools or 144 total. THat means there will be 84 schools in 4A and only 60 in 321a. Why not just have all of those in one classification?? 321a will be a joke!!


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I believe it will be other way around.....60 in 4A and the rest in 321A.

Currently, 4A has 64 schools, but 4 schools that do not have wrestling, so 4A is 60 schools currently.

But with next year's formula only counting wrestling schools...4A will pretty much stay the same in terms of number of schools. And the top 7 or so 321A schools will come up to 4A. So 321A will be the only class with less schools than this year.

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1 Arkansas City  162.5 5A
2 Andover Central  105 5A
3 Bonner Springs  94.5 5A
7 McPherson  67.5 5A
9 Basehor-Linwood  62 5A
23 Spring Hill  30 5A
36 Hays  6 5A
Kansas City - Sumner Academy 0 5A

4 Tonganoxie  83
5 El Dorado  80.5
6 Abilene  73
8 Burlington  67
10 Marysville  58
11 Chanute  57
12 LaCygne-Prairie View  53
13 Holton  51
13 Paola  51
15 Columbus  46
15 Rose Hill  46
17 Clay Center Community  43
18 Andale  40
19 Augusta  39
20 Winfield  38
21 Pratt  35
22 Concordia  34
24 SM-Bishop Miege  27
25 Wamego  25
26 Holcomb  23.5
26 Louisburg  23.5
28 Frontenac  20
29 Clearwater  19
30 Eudora  16
31 Santa Fe Trail  13
32 Ottawa  10.5
33 Buhler  9
33 Garnett-Anderson County  9
35 Wellington  7
36 KC-Piper  6
36 Larned  6
36 Mulvane  6
36 Ulysses  6
41 St. George-Rock Creek  5
42 Chapman  4
43 Fort Scott  3
44 Atchison  2
44 Nickerson  2
46 Baldwin  1
46 Hugoton  1
46 Wichita-Trinity Academy  1
49 Altamont-Labette County  0
49 Independence  0
49 Lindsborg-Smokey Valley  0

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Originally Posted By: Kit Harris
Correct, Will. Except one note, take out the schools without wrestling from that list, and that adjusts things slightly. It will bump a few more up from 321A.

Since the "60-40" formula is for the sport of wrestling only, it only affects schools that offer it.


so this should read 40, 60.... 40% in 4A and 60% in 321a??


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Originally Posted By: Kit Harris
I believe it will be other way around.....60 in 4A and the rest in 321A.

Currently, 4A has 64 schools, but 4 schools that do not have wrestling, so 4A is 60 schools currently.

But with next year's formula only counting wrestling schools...4A will pretty much stay the same in terms of number of schools. And the top 7 or so 321A schools will come up to 4A. So 321A will be the only class with less schools than this year.



According to the regional team listings there were 61 teams in 4A this year...

Abilene 
Altamont-Labette County
Andale 
Andover Central 
Arkansas City 
Atchison 
Augusta 
Baldwin 
Basehor-Linwood 
Baxter Springs
Bonner Springs 
Buhler 
Burlington
Chanute
Chapman 
Clay Center Community 
Clearwater 
Coffeyville-Field Kindley 
Columbus
Concordia 
El Dorado 
Eudora 
Fort Scott
Frontenac
Garnett-Anderson County
Hays 
Holcomb 
Holton 
Hugoton 
Independence 
Iola
KC-Bishop Ward 
KC-Piper 
KC-Sumner Academy 
LaCygne-Prairie View
Larned 
Lindsborg-Smokey Valley 
Louisburg
Marysville 
McPherson 
Meriden-Jefferson West 
Mulvane 
Nickerson 
Osawatomie
Ottawa
Paola
Parsons
Pratt 
Rose Hill 
Santa Fe Trail 
SM-Bishop Miege 
Spring Hill
St. George-Rock Creek 
Tonganoxie 
Topeka-Hayden 
Towanda-Circle 
Ulysses 
Wamego 
Wellington 
Wichita-Trinity Academy 
Winfield 


Scott Community 259 1st 321a
Colby 258
Goodland 257
Wellsville 255
Perry-Lecompton 254
Haven 250
Russell 250
Halstead 245


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That is correct...I should have said 40-60 formula, not 60-40

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91 in 321A

Anthony-Harper/Chaparral 
Atchison-Maur Hill
Atwood-Rawlins County 
Belleville-Republic County 
Beloit 
Bennington 
Brewster 
Brookville-Ell Saline 
Burden Central 
Burlingame
Caney Valley 
Canton Galva 
Cheney 
Cherokee-Southeast 
Cherryvale 
Cimarron 
Colby 
Cottonwood Falls-Chase County 
Council Grove
Douglass 
Easton-Pleasant Ridge
Effingham-ACCHS
Ellis 
Ellsworth 
Erie 
Eskridge-Mission Valley
Eureka 
Fredonia 
Garden Plain 
Goodland 
Gypsum-SE Of Saline
Halstead 
Hays-TMP 
Herington
Hesston 
Highland-Doniphan West
Hill City 
Hillsboro 
Hoisington 
Howard-West Elk 
Hoxie 
Hoyt-Royal Valley
Humboldt 
Kensington-Thunder Ridge 
Lakin 
Leon-Bluestem 
Leoti-Wichita County 
Lincoln 
Logan 
Lyons 
Mankato-Rock Hills 
Marion 
Minneapolis 
Montezuma-South Gray 
Mound City-Jayhawk Linn 
Norton Community 
Norwich 
Oakley 
Oberlin-Decatur Community 
Onaga
Osage City
Osborne 
Oskaloosa
Perry-Lecompton
Phillipsburg 
Plainville 
Richmond-Central Heights
Riley County
Rosalia-Flinthills 
Rossville
Russell 
Sabetha
Salina-St. John?s Military 
Scott Community 
Silver Lake
Smith Center 
St. Francis 
St. Marys
Stafford 
Sterling 
Stockton 
Sublette 
Sylvan Grove 
Tribune-Greeley County 
Uniontown 
Wabaunsee
Wakeeney-Trego Community 
Wathena-Riverside
Wellsville 
White City
Whitewater-Remington 


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Lets take a look at it a different way

6A 61772
5A 34529
4A 25411

Total student population...


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It is 40% of the remaining schools that offer in 4A. The remaining 60% will makeup 321A.


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